Help Identifying some Handguns

[gfors]

My friend took this picture of her dad's collection of handguns.
I could use some help ID-ing a few. I think there's a Colt Trooper, Ruger P85, Ruger LC9, Betetta 71, in the mix. I have no clue on the Smith or the air gun. Any ideas?
Thanks!

 

[lihpster]

Airgun looks like a Benjamin or Sheridan.

 

[gfors]

Airgun looks like a Benjamin or Sheridan.

I think you're right. It looks like the Benjamins, I get on a Google search, and I think I can make out the logo, on the grip, in my picture.

 

[Diego]

Are you sure that the snubbie is a Smith? The shape of the hammer looks like a Rossi to me.

 

[ContinentalOp]

Are you sure that the snubbie is a Smith? The shape of the hammer looks like a Rossi to me.

The snub definitely isn't S&W. Look at the extractor rod/barrel lug, not to mention the front sight. Unfortunately, I can't tell what it is, nor do I know for sure what the other ones are. Sorry.

 

[PeteC]

In the upper left, it could be an early Model 60 no dash, pinned barrel, with a long ramp sight, and a semi-bobbed hammer. There were a lot of Model 60 variants.

The Colt looks like a Police Positive Target, but a short barrel?

The Rugers seem correct.

The Beretta is likely 70 series, hard to tell which one.

Reading some of the marks/stamps off the guns would help!

 

[murphydog]

The Colt is a large frame, probably an earlier Trooper.

 

[smithra_66]

The Colt is a large frame, probably an earlier Trooper.

Yes it's an E or an I frame, which is their medium size frame actually...same size as a Python.

That gun looks like a pre-Mark III Trooper...so still a V-spring action. Desirable gun.

It could also be a 3-5-7 model.

 

[gfors]

I have shot the Beretta. It's a .22, which i believe makes it a 71. It's a cool little gun, and really easy to field strip.
She put the guns back in his safe, but promised to get more info before she heads back this way.
Thanks for the replies!

 

[ContinentalOp]

I did a little digging and I'm pretty sure the snub is a Rossi. Here's a picture of a Rossi snub I found on the interwebs:

 

[LVSteve]

Are you sure that the snubbie is a Smith? The shape of the hammer looks like a Rossi to me.

I would say Rossi or Taurus with that front sight.

 

[hkcavalier]

Placement of the frame screw indicates the Colt is a 3-5-7. 4" barrel, nice gun and certainly the most valuable of the bunch.

I'd personally love a Beretta 71 with a threaded barrel. They're neat guns.

 

[199]

You might want to see if the original Colt .357 grips are laying around somewhere!

They'd add value to the revolver, plus have value of their own if they happen to be target stocks that were swapped out early and are in very good condition.

 

[smithra_66]

Placement of the frame screw indicates the Colt is a 3-5-7. 4" barrel, nice gun and certainly the most valuable of the bunch.

I'd personally love a Beretta 71 with a threaded barrel. They're neat guns.

The pre mark III Troopers would also have the same placement of the sideplate screw.

Those two guns are very hard to tell apart...both are pretty rare too!

The only way to tell them apart in the pre-mark III days is the quality of finish...the .357 was higher level finish while the Trooper was more like the Highway Patrolman in the S&W line...a no-frills .357 mag with a more subdued finish.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

this beretta serial # database is a good tool

Firearm Technical Data Search

 

[smithra_66]

You might want to see if the original Colt .357 grips are laying around somewhere!

They'd add value to the revolver, plus have value of their own if they happen to be target stocks that were swapped out early and are in very good condition.

For sure....either the Trooper or 3-5-7 would have gen 1 or gen 2 target stocks with silver medallions.

They would be worth a lot today. Unfortunately a lot of these guns had their grips separated because selling them separately of the gun nets a lot of money.

 

[Onomea]

The only way to tell them apart in the pre-mark III days is the quality of finish...the .357 was higher level finish while the Trooper was more like the Highway Patrolman in the S&W line...a no-frills .357 mag with a more subdued finish.

Internals are different, no? I don't have my books with me, but one could also look up the SN, I'd think.