Help me out: TRR8 Performance Center or 627 Pro + tuning

[startacron]

trr8

I have 2 of these. One for Illinois and one I picked up on a distressed sale in Arizona. The action is so smooth from the factory as this is truly and hand made fitted gun.

The big advantage is the weight as it is scandium rather than steel and it is drilled and tapped. It also includes the tactical rails for scope or red dot. If that appeals to you then buy the trr8 as drilling and tapping and then finding the right screws is tough.

If you need the features ans can afford the the $1100.00 tag then this is the gun you want. Smith has outdid themselves on this gun. It is like the old quality of the 1960's factory hand made revolvers like the 19.

RG

 

[matteekay]

Maybe the TRR8 would have been the better way to go?

I was already less than impressed with the Performance Center's work, and now I get to be disappointed in their CS and QA.

I sent the 627-5 PC in because of over-chamfering on the ejector, causing moonclipped rounds to hang up when reloading. It looked like this:

Well, three weeks later they send it back after supposedly replacing the cylinder and hand (sidenote - what does the hand have to do with anything?). It now looks like this:

It's actually worse than before I sent it. I'm stunned - Taurus has better quality control than this (they fixed my $100 Heritage .22 faster AND correctly). Hell, I've gotten better work from Chiappa's CS. I've already emailed S&W a very detailed description, with photos, and I'm waiting to hear back.

I understand that this isn't an issue that would affect everyone but I spent over a thousand dollars on this gun specifically to use it in competition. Not being able to reload it consistently with moons means it's pretty much useless.

It's true what everyone says - the Performance Center mark is just branding at this point. It's almost a joke.

 

[Jebus35745]

See post #10, the 8 shot I had, the loaded moon clips had to be jiggled a little to get them in. They DIDN'T drop in like they do on a 625 with no resistance. The grooves on 357 are different diameters from all the manufacturers and some are loose and some tight. Certain moon clips are made for certain brands of brass and work better for loading. This could be your problem, not sure. I was too cheap to buy the expensive moon clips. Larry

 

[matteekay]

See post #10, the 8 shot I had, the loaded moon clips had to be jiggled a little to get them in. They DIDN'T drop in like they do on a 625 with no resistance. The grooves on 357 are different diameters from all the manufacturers and some are loose and some tight. Certain moon clips are made for certain brands of brass and work better for loading. This could be your problem, not sure. I was too cheap to buy the expensive moon clips. Larry

It's not an ammo/moonclip matching problem. I used both Revolver Supply Co (good) and TK Customs (the best) and both had this issue. The rounds freeze going into the cylinder even if they're sloppy-loose in the clip because at least one catches on the charge hole's lip. Perversely, the rock solid TK's are almost worse since they're so rigid.

I got to compare this gun to several other 627's since I compete in ICORE. Most had a little bit of the cylinder peeking past the ejector, which is fine, but none had a mismatch this severe.

It's been back at Smith for two days now and I'm still waiting on the email saying it's been taken in.

 

[Jebus35745]

I tried, sometimes the solution is simple. Shot my 627 in a fun IDPA match, the only revolver shooter there. We competed against ourselves trying to beat the last time you shot. Have't been to one in a while and sold the 627, really liked that gun. It was very accurate. Now I shoot my Para-ord P-14. Good luck, the quality in a few gun manufacturers is not like it used to be. Larry

 

[matteekay]

I hear ya Larry, thanks.

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[TAC]

It appears the quality control for the TRR8 varies greatly. I bought one of the early ones several years ago, and I was very disappointed. You could actually watch the hammer move rearward, when pulling it through a very long SA let-off. DA was abnormally heavy, and gritty, out of the box. I was able to clean it up, to what it should have been, to begin with. It was common for many to have the barrel nut work lose, after it heated up a bit.

Some swear by it, others swear at it.

 

[matteekay]

Some swear by it, others swear at it.

You may have coined a new slogan for the Performance Center on the whole!

 

[gnappi]

The 326 Vs. the 627 for me may be an issue of how high a mileage I'd expect to put on it. I like the lightweight of the 327, but the heft of the 627.

crappenzola, make a withdrawal from the kids college fund and get both.

 

[catadjuster]

YMMV

OP - I looked at the photos of your cylinder and compared them to my 627PC and mine looks identical to yours. I have not had a hang up problem with moon clips (mine are Revolver Supply 25mm - the 20 and 22mm do not work for me other than with Winchester brass) as long as I am using Starline brass with some sort of truncated cone bullet. As soon as I use anything like a SWC or anything with a lip or ridge, I will get hang ups.

I will note that I still need to "jiggle" a bit more as compared to a 625PC moon clip re-load. Those seem to be like guided missiles and I think it has to do with the spacing of the chambers in the cylinder. I'm not so sure that you wouldn't have a similar situation with the TRR8 given that you would still be working with an 8 chamber cylinder.

 

[matteekay]

Appreciate the reply!

Smith did NOTHING and actually sent the gun back with a note that effectively said that I'm using moonclips wrong. Swell.

I took it to my gunsmith friend and he fitted a new ejector/star. No more problems loading anything, even flat-nosed rounds with a taper crimp. As he says, all guns are kits - some just need more work than others.