Help with Covid Vaccine, have you had yours??

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Evolution doesn't move fast. But it moves.

More people get vaccinated, and they start going about their business as restrictions are lifted. But so will the unvaccinated. It's human nature. But since there won't be enough vaccinated for herd immunity, the virus will continue to be around and to spread.

The unvaccinated will get hammered. In the long term, the gene pool will tilt toward the vaccinated. And although I won't be around by then, the country will be a better place for it.
 
We are still against taking the vaccine. I am "on the fence", the wife is a definite "no". Our county is a little over 10,000 souls; 37 have died. I maintain social distancing except for the wife and the cats.
 
Got my 2nd Moderrna yesterday. The worst part of the 1st was ripping the bandaid off my hairy arm. Today the shot site is pretty sore, a little ache in a few joints. Generally, feeling a little crappy.
 
Think about it. Experimental vax, you get both of them and...

- You still need more of them, or so the experts will tell you.
- You still need to wear a mask (masks are supposed to keep outgoing viruses from being projected from your nose/mouth, NOT to protect you from incoming.
- You sill need to socially distance yourself.
- You can still catch the china flu
- You don't, and nobody else either, knows the long-terms effects that screwing with RNA/DNA will have on your body. Some projections are pretty scary.

So, why would I want to be a guinea pig for big pharma?
What advantages are there in taking the vax? I am still at risk of catching it and suffering those "life-long complications".
You need to read some serious material about all of this,there is so much hooey in that list of yours
 
just saw a report on a Florida
ICU doctor who says patient
deaths from COVID are trending
upward in younger people.

Younger he describes as under 50
and the common denominator among
them is they haven't been vaxxed.
 
That goes both ways...

"VAERS data released today showed 118,902 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 3,544 deaths and 12,619 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 23, 2021."

Found it, read it. You should as well.

"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

To date, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.

FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

Over 230 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 3,848 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS." Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC
 
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Found it, read it. You should as well.

"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

To date, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.

FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

Over 230 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 3,848 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS." Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC
Yup. 70,000 Americans die EVERY DAY.

Give a vaccine to a couple of hundred million people in 3 months and and some of them are gonna die from SOMETHING shortly afterwards. But NOOOO, if they died after the vaccine it must be the vaccine. It couldn't be that they would have died anyway.

Correlation does not equal causality. Amazing how many people don't understand the simplest concepts of statistics and probability.

Guess that's why lotto tickets are such a big business. A tax on the math challenged.
 
I've had both vaccines but have resisted face diapers since day one, only wearing when forced. Indiana is a free state and the mask mandate ended April 6th. I haven't worn one since. For those that want to wear a mask, have at it. We will never agree nor will we find common ground except for you do you and I'll do me.

Another perspective:

Niall Ferguson: How Ike's 1950s America Beat The 'Asian Flu' With Science & Common Sense

Niall Ferguson: How Ike'''s 1950s America Beat The '''Asian Flu''' With Science & Common Sense | ZeroHedge

In 1957, the U.S. rose to the challenge of the 'Asian flu' with stoicism and a high tolerance for risk, offering a stark contrast with today's approach to Covid-19...

"Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive,/But to be young was very heaven!" Wordsworth was talking about France in 1789, but the line applies better to the America of 1957. That summer, Elvis Presley topped the charts with "(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear." But we tend to forget that 1957 also saw the outbreak of one of the biggest pandemics of the modern era. Not coincidentally, another hit of that year was "Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu" by Huey "Piano" Smith & the Clowns.

When seeking historical analogies for Covid-19, commentators have referred more often to the catastrophic 1918-19 "Spanish influenza" than to the flu pandemic of 1957-58. Yet the later episode deserves to be much better known, not just because the public health threat was a closer match to our own but because American society at the time was better prepared—culturally, institutionally and politically—to deal with it.

The "Asian flu"—as it was then uncontroversial to call a contagious disease that originated in Asia—was a novel strain (H2N2) of influenza A. It was first reported in Hong Kong in April 1957, having originated in mainland China two months before, and—like Covid-19—it swiftly went global.

Like Covid-19, the Asian flu led to significant excess mortality. The most recent research concludes that between 700,000 and 1.5 million people worldwide died in the pandemic. A pre-Covid study of the 1957-58 pandemic concluded that if "a virus of similar severity" were to strike in our time, around 2.7 million deaths might be anticipated worldwide. The current Covid-19 death toll is 3 million, about the same percentage of world population as were killed in 1957–58 (0.04%, compared with 1.7% in 1918-19).

True, excess mortality in the U.S.—now around 550,000—has been significantly higher in relative terms in 2020-21 than in 1957-58 (at most 116,000). Unlike Covid-19, however, the Asian flu killed appreciable numbers of young people. In terms of excess mortality relative to baseline expected mortality rates, the age groups that suffered the heaviest losses globally were 15- to 24-year-olds (34% above average mortality rates) followed by 5- to 14-year-olds (27% above average). In total years of life lost in the U.S., adjusted for population, Covid has been roughly 40% worse than the Asian flu.

The Asian flu and Covid-19 are very different diseases, in other words. The Asian flu's basic reproduction number—the average number of people that one person was likely to infect in a population without any immunity—was around 1.65. For Covid-19, it is likely higher, perhaps 2.5 or 3.0.

Superspreader events probably played a bigger role in 2020 than in 1957: Covid has a lower dispersion factor—that is, a minority of carriers do most of the transmission. On the other hand, people had more reason to be afraid of a new strain of influenza in 1957 than of a novel coronavirus in 2020. The disastrous pandemic of 1918 was still within living memory, whereas neither SARS nor MERS had produced pandemics...
 
I'm with a few others here.....not now and not ever. They've been working on covid related vaccines for decades with no luck, but now we're supposed to believe that they can roll out THREE in one year? Uh huh. Not FDA approved, but given an emergency waiver? Uh huh. And when the fascists come out with their vaccine passport in order to go places and do things, well I guess I'll know where I can't go and what I can't do.
Let's see....who here trusts big pharma? Fauci?*spit*, the government? More power to ya if you can answer those in the positive, but as I might have said....for me, not now, not ever. Oh, and BTW, this is not a vaccine, and anyone telling you it is is lying.....but what else is new.
No Jab For Me
 
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