Help with Covid Vaccine, have you had yours??

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Wife and son both got their second shot of Pfizer this week. The wife had no ill effects whatsoever. Our son felt terrible the next day - chills, aches, and lethargy. He's fine now, though. Son didn't want to get the vaccine. He wanted to wait and see about any long term side effects first. I encouraged him to get vaccinated, but didn't say he had to. He is 18, so I figured it's his choice. When the wife got her second shot she posted on facebook that she was fully vaccinated and added #microchipped and #genetically altered to mess with her friend who believes all the conspiracy theories.

So now we've all had the virus and both shots. We should be good to go.
 
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Muss Muggins said:
6.8 million vaccinated. Six got blood clots. One died. The phrase "Out of an abundance of caution," which cancelled 2020, comes to

mind . . .
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"That number has now risen to 15, Tom Shimabukuro, a CDC vaccine safety expert, told the committee. The number may rise; Shimabukuro said "just under 10" possible additional cases are being investigated. Of the 15 cases so far, 12 involve a clot in the brain called a cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, or CVST; the other three people had a variety of other clots, also serious. Three of the confirmed cases have died."

Yes, a small number but that number continues to grow.
 
How many people got that clot that didn't get the vaccine? I'll help. About 10,000 per year . . .

Rob613 said:
"That number has now risen to 15, Tom Shimabukuro, a CDC vaccine safety expert, told the committee. The number may rise; Shimabukuro said "just under 10" possible additional cases are being investigated. Of the 15 cases so far, 12 involve a clot in the brain called a cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, or CVST; the other three people had a variety of other clots, also serious. Three of the confirmed cases have died."

Yes, a small number but that number continues to grow.
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I've had both Moderna shots with the 2nd one about a month ago. All I had was a sore arm each time with the 2nd shot causing a little bit worse of a sore arm. My wife just had her 2nd Moderna shot Friday. She got the sore arm Friday but it kicked her azz Friday evening and all day and night Saturday. Chills, fever, headache, slept almost all day Saturday and Saturday night. She's much better today but is lacking energy.
 
Wife got the 2nd Pfizer Fri and had flu like symptoms all day Sat, but was back to normal on sun.
I'll get mine when the "control" group has weeded out all the side effects.
 
A friend of mine,a PT,provides therapy and rehab mostly to geezers who have suffered strokes.Over the last year she has been inundated with 20-40 somethings who have suffered serious,life changing strokes due to the virus.It is nasty

(I had a stroke a year and a half ago,you really don't want one.)
 
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We are all done at our house with no issues. Now flying overseas is possible again!
BUT... my BIL and friend since childhood refused to get one due to.. all kinds of reasons. One being that he hardly ever gets sick, which is true. I spent an hour on phone with him 3 weeks ago and my sister finally got him to get the jab last Friday. Unfortunately he was already infected about 2 weeks earlier from his church where they decided masks were no longer needed. Several of his church group friends are infected. He is 64 and is down for the count although he has not had to be hospitalized as of this morning.
THe crazy or sad part about his decision to get the shot... his adult children would not let him come to see them until he was vaccinated. So my sister spent a weekend up in Durham NC with the grandkids ..without him. I think that was the straw that broke... and he got vaccinated. Unfortunately, he waited about 3 weeks to long to make that decision. We are praying he recovers fully.
 
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Got my second Moderna shot Friday. No sore arm at all but felt like I got ran over by a truck Saturday and part of Sunday. Chills the first night and I still have a headache and feel a little foggy. Wasn't expecting this cause I felt nothing after the first dose. Oh well I'm in the club now!

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arjay said:
That's simplistic,but there are a hell of a lot of survivors suffering life long complications from this virus. Think about it some more [emoji4]
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That goes both ways...

"VAERS data released today showed 118,902 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 3,544 deaths and 12,619 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 23, 2021."
 
Mainsail said:
I decided not to get an experimental vaccine to allegedly protect me from a disease with a >98% survival rate.
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Well I got my second shot the end of March. I'm older and have a couple of underlying conditions.

What I don't understand is if you are totally vaccinated or have had the virus; why can't you go about your business. According to the CDC if you are vaccinated you cannot get the virus from anyone and you can't give give the virus to anyone. Those folks the other night sitting a room that can hold 1600 people and they were all wearing masks and sitting 10 feet apart. Seems to me that they know something that we don't know or they are playing us for fools. Which is it?
 
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F4phantom said:
Well I got my second shot the end of March. I'm older and have a couple of underlying conditions.

What I don't understand is if you are totally vaccinated or have had the virus; why can't you go about your business. According to the CDC if you are vaccinated you cannot get the virus from anyone and you can't give give the virus to anyone. Those folks the other night sitting a room that can hold 1600 people and they were all wearing masks and sitting 10 feet apart. Seems to me that they know something that we don't know or they are playing us for fools. Which is it?
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Think about it. Experimental vax, you get both of them and...

- You still need more of them, or so the experts will tell you.
- You still need to wear a mask (masks are supposed to keep outgoing viruses from being projected from your nose/mouth, NOT to protect you from incoming.
- You sill need to socially distance yourself.
- You can still catch the china flu
- You don't, and nobody else either, knows the long-terms effects that screwing with RNA/DNA will have on your body. Some projections are pretty scary.

So, why would I want to be a guinea pig for big pharma?
What advantages are there in taking the vax? I am still at risk of catching it and suffering those "life-long complications".
 
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Evolution doesn't move fast. But it moves.

More people get vaccinated, and they start going about their business as restrictions are lifted. But so will the unvaccinated. It's human nature. But since there won't be enough vaccinated for herd immunity, the virus will continue to be around and to spread.

The unvaccinated will get hammered. In the long term, the gene pool will tilt toward the vaccinated. And although I won't be around by then, the country will be a better place for it.
 
We are still against taking the vaccine. I am "on the fence", the wife is a definite "no". Our county is a little over 10,000 souls; 37 have died. I maintain social distancing except for the wife and the cats.
 
Got my 2nd Moderrna yesterday. The worst part of the 1st was ripping the bandaid off my hairy arm. Today the shot site is pretty sore, a little ache in a few joints. Generally, feeling a little crappy.
 
Mainsail said:
Think about it. Experimental vax, you get both of them and...

- You still need more of them, or so the experts will tell you.
- You still need to wear a mask (masks are supposed to keep outgoing viruses from being projected from your nose/mouth, NOT to protect you from incoming.
- You sill need to socially distance yourself.
- You can still catch the china flu
- You don't, and nobody else either, knows the long-terms effects that screwing with RNA/DNA will have on your body. Some projections are pretty scary.

So, why would I want to be a guinea pig for big pharma?
What advantages are there in taking the vax? I am still at risk of catching it and suffering those "life-long complications".
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You need to read some serious material about all of this,there is so much hooey in that list of yours
 
just saw a report on a Florida
ICU doctor who says patient
deaths from COVID are trending
upward in younger people.

Younger he describes as under 50
and the common denominator among
them is they haven't been vaxxed.
 
Rob613 said:
That goes both ways...

"VAERS data released today showed 118,902 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 3,544 deaths and 12,619 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 23, 2021."
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Found it, read it. You should as well.

"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

To date, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.

FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

Over 230 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 3,848 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS." Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC
 
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biku324 said:
Found it, read it. You should as well.

"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

To date, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.

FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

Over 230 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 3,848 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS." Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC
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Yup. 70,000 Americans die EVERY DAY.

Give a vaccine to a couple of hundred million people in 3 months and and some of them are gonna die from SOMETHING shortly afterwards. But NOOOO, if they died after the vaccine it must be the vaccine. It couldn't be that they would have died anyway.

Correlation does not equal causality. Amazing how many people don't understand the simplest concepts of statistics and probability.

Guess that's why lotto tickets are such a big business. A tax on the math challenged.
 
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