Hopefully not too CRAZY a CCW question for you experts regarding 6" 686.

You got more than enough comments here so I'll be brief. I am short and cannot imagine trying to conceal a 6" revolver. I have trouble concealing a 4 inch revolver. It can be done, and if you're a large guy go for it. I know nothing about stupid California rules but I imagine they'll allow it - it's a non-scary revolver and not a scary hi-cap semi-auto - you know, an assault pistol! EEK! :eek: I can't imagine you'll get a problem from the authorities.

On the other hand, carrying a concealed handgun is an exercise in compromise - how well can you conceal it, how long can you tolerate the weight, etc. Those are the big issues. Most folks cannot stand a really big, heavy gun for long - it's just tiresome.

Movies don't count - actors do NOT carry the guns unless they need them in the scenes where they use them. Otherwise, the prop man holds them.

That said, of course you hit a target easily with a 6 inch barrel - but you should have NO problem with a 4" barrel and many of us have no problem with a 2 inch barrel. It just takes practice. I just returned from a trip to Israel and was fortunate enough to get to shoot with a counter-terrorism team. When they handed me a Beretta Model 70 in .22 LR caliber and told me to hit a black dot at 20 yards I drilled it, followed by another and so forth. The soldier next to me looked at me and asked, "Professional?"

I laughed and said, "This is what I do!"

It just takes practice - not a long barrel. And that was with a gun I NEVER touched before, although I do have one of my own so it was familiar to me.

Defending your family at 20 yards won't occur often - few thugs can do much to you at 20 yards. You need a gun you can get to quickly and get into action quickly when it's up close and personal - if the big gun works for that for you, so be it.
 
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Take a look at the 686 Plus - seven rounds and is available in 2.5 and 3 inch barrel lengths. Still gives you a full sizeb revolver with the same grip options - just a little shorter on the muzzle end.

Most people who complain that
they can't shoot a short barreled revolver accurately, especially at close quarters distances dont ever train as much as they'd like you to think they do. I've fou d that even with a S&W 5-shot snubby, factory ammo doesn't drop enough even out to 50 yards to prevent one from hitting a torso-sized target.

The lighter trigger on the revolver you mentioned, if factory specs, should not cause light strikes and misfired. I've got three K-frames with trigger jobs dropping them down to the 7-8 pound double action range. The one with the sweetest action is a .22 and does not misfire. For a revolver, a light trigger pull is not as beneficial to accurate shooting as a smooth trigger. Having a 'Smith stone and polish the action while leaving the factory springs alone is not a bad thing.

In terms of semi autos, Glocks rarely jam unless the shooter is limp-wristing them, the magazines go bad, or , in the case of the 3rd Gen 40s, the locking blocks break. User error is more common to semi auto malfunctions than the gu s themselves. In terms of SIG vs Glock, I've not seen any clear winner in terms of reliability. I personnally prefer the M&Ps over both of them, but I understand that S&W doesn't plan to sell them in the PRC much longer due the micro stamping requirements. Revolvers may be preferable in CA in the foreseeable future.

Ammo - 38 or 357 - there's some good stuff out there from Speer, Remington, and other companies. In terms of historical effectiveness, the legendary 125 grain semi JHP in 357 Mag is probably the most effective of the 357 loads. The performance of the newer Gold Dots should not be overlooked.

Training - seek some professional training courses, but do not neglect dry fire in between. Dry firing in a safe manner provides you with the ability to master your trigger - never disturbing the front sight picture as your trigger breaks.

Good luck with it and enjoy.
 
Of all the handguns you have mentioned the 627 with the 4" barrel seems to be the best fit. The size is not that much greater than a 686, you get two more rounds, and the moonclips give great advantages in that all the shells go in and come out together. This is highly advantageous in any situation where you need to unload or reload. There is a man near you by the name of David Hearth that makes spectacular moonclips that are made of spring steel and more durable than anything that will come with the gun. You can also run the gun without moonclips if you like or need to in a pinch. The 125gr.JHP loads in .357 magnum are well regarded for stopping human threats while recoiling mildly. Double Tap or Underwood or Buffalo brand ammunition are the most potent and they all use starline brass I believe so you would be able to order the thickest and most durable moonclips available. You will have to dress around this gun in warm months, but God forbid you ever need it, it will serve you well. There are plenty of ICORE matches in California so you can get lots of practice shooting with knowledgeable revolver shooters also if you like. For holster options you have a reasonable choice between a shoulder holster or an IWB for least chance of exposing the gun in public. I believe you should always have a holster that allows for one handed reholstering so that you may safely control the weapon at all times.
 
TOTAL TROLL!!! FYI.. This guy has been posting in the CalGuns.net forum as well and asking just some asinine questions.

FYI.. the City and County of LA are not issuing CCW' s to anyone but connected people...

Anyone connnected enough to get a LA CCW would not be asking all the questions this guy does.

For what its worth... According to this thread thee weeks ago on CalGuns, hes moving to Az...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1087243
 
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If the OP participant is comfortable concealing a L frame .357, I would like to suggest a 386. With its scandium alloy frame and titanium cylinder, it only weighs 18 oz unloaded. I find mine to be snappy but not too harsh to shoot.

I also have a 586. I would definitely prefer to carry the 386 on a daily basis.
 
I was in a LGS when a young guy around 5' 6" and 135 pounds came in and asked the owner about selling his 8 3/8" S&W 500 magnum. The owner asked if he had it with him. The guy said yes. The owner told him to get it so he could look at it. The guy unzipped his hoody sweatshirt and took it out of his shoulder holster. The butt was in his armpit and the barrel extended past his hip under the hoody sweatshirt.


...which is probably WHY he was selling it! :eek:
 
You don't mention whether your intent is "occassional carry"or EDC. If EDC I suspect you won' be carrying that gun for long.(heavy, big guns wear out their CCW welcome pretty quick)

If it's for occassional, then perhaps it won't be too bad.

Personally? I would find something smaller and LEARN to shoot it well. ;)
 
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