horizontal shoulder holster
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Andy Taylor
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As he was removing the gun from the holster he put his finger in the triggerguard. His fault.
Andy Taylor
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Well said.
photoman
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I knew there was a good reason to give up coffee...
mississippi revolverman
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Photomn 44 quite the opposite if he had not been drinking coffe and sitting at his desk he would have got a bullet in the guts
Lucky Derby and WC 145 both right agree operator error not the gun or the holster. Rest of the story it was actually our property office who was trying out an Agents rig and weapon that let the round go. He could not belief what happened untill he opened the cylinder and counted life rounds and spent one
Lucky Derby and WC 145 both right agree operator error not the gun or the holster. Rest of the story it was actually our property office who was trying out an Agents rig and weapon that let the round go. He could not belief what happened untill he opened the cylinder and counted life rounds and spent one
Jack Flash
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From the dictionary:
cant: a slanting or tilted position.
When I said "canted in any way" I thought that was clear enough. Some holsters are designed so that the barrel does not point straight down, but at an angle either forward or to the rear.
Perhaps since such a holster is more likely to align the pistol's muzzle with a bystander's leg (as opposed to his chest), it is less objectionable than a horizontal rig. But I'm not the one raising objections.
I was just asking if most holsters don't cause similar concerns... especially if the wearer is not just standing up straight but leaning forward, etc.
cant: a slanting or tilted position.
When I said "canted in any way" I thought that was clear enough. Some holsters are designed so that the barrel does not point straight down, but at an angle either forward or to the rear.
Perhaps since such a holster is more likely to align the pistol's muzzle with a bystander's leg (as opposed to his chest), it is less objectionable than a horizontal rig. But I'm not the one raising objections.
I was just asking if most holsters don't cause similar concerns... especially if the wearer is not just standing up straight but leaning forward, etc.
M
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It might be a good idea to lose the 'SOB' holster; that is one of the most dangerous places to carry an unyielding object like a pistol. In a fall, you could easily wind up being paralyzed by the impact to your lumbar spine.
A properly worn strong-side behind the hip IWB or good pancake holster is just as 'invisible' and a bit faster, while eliminating the risk to your spine. Stay safe.
It might be a good idea to lose the 'SOB' holster; that is one of the most dangerous places to carry an unyielding object like a pistol. In a fall, you could easily wind up being paralyzed by the impact to your lumbar spine.
A properly worn strong-side behind the hip IWB or good pancake holster is just as 'invisible' and a bit faster, while eliminating the risk to your spine. Stay safe.
photoman
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Lucky guy. That was the right day to drink a cup of coffee. Maybe he should take up smoking too.
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I had my career best timed draw and cleaning metal plates using a horizontal shoulder holster. It was at the FBI Academy and my instructor started calling over other instructors to watch. The holster was very fast, I was having a great day and had been very well trained.
Other than that, it was a piece of junk. It was synthetic and used velcro retaining straps, which didn't work. My pistol fell out a couple of times during assault courses so I ended up using a bootlace as a lanyard. Then when it fell out it just beat me about the shins. I scrapped it after that training session.
Other than that, it was a piece of junk. It was synthetic and used velcro retaining straps, which didn't work. My pistol fell out a couple of times during assault courses so I ended up using a bootlace as a lanyard. Then when it fell out it just beat me about the shins. I scrapped it after that training session.
safearm
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I've carried a ******* rig since they came out; in fact, it's the only kind of shoulder holster I have. I've used others, and always found them to be inferior in comfort and concealability. I'm not knocking other holsters; just that they are not for me.
I don't accept the argument that a weapon in a horizontal holster is any more dangerous than a weapon in any other type of holster. It's been beaten to death, but guns don't go off by themselves, there's always some external force, whether it's pulling the gun out of a holster with your finger on the trigger, or dropping a cocked revolver on the hammer.
I don't accept the argument that a weapon in a horizontal holster is any more dangerous than a weapon in any other type of holster. It's been beaten to death, but guns don't go off by themselves, there's always some external force, whether it's pulling the gun out of a holster with your finger on the trigger, or dropping a cocked revolver on the hammer.
G
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"Similar concerns" covers a whole lot of area. The biggest problem that most people have with the horizontal shoulder holster is the fact that if it is uncovered the muzzle begins to look larger and larger no matter what the caliber. Also, it is a very difficult holster to use if you have to re-holster and don't have both hands free.
I can't agree with the idea of loosing this particular holster but I would go along with a name change. Yes, I agree, the Small of the Back is no place to carry anything especially something like a sidearm. But, I find it a very good style of holster if used on the Strong Side just behind the center line of the body.
Glock 27:
Smith & Wesson Model 60 with a 3 inch barrel:
And, yes, this holster because of the "cant" points the muzzle to the rear but, unless you're two feet tall, it isn't anywhere near eye level as is the Horizontal Shoulder Holster and this holster allows re-holstering without having both hands free.
I've said all I can about this subject so I'll turn off the notification at this point.
Originally posted by Big Foot:
Are you double-jointed?Or, it must hang down fairly low for your off-hand to grasp it in a secure fashion...I certainly cannot do it with my opposite hand....
It's easy and I'm not double jointed. If you can stick your thumbs in your armpits and flap your arms like wings you can do it to. Since I'm right handed the gun hangs under my left arm, I just reach up with my left hand, grab the grip, release the snap with my thumb and pull the gun straight out away from me. I turn my wrist to straighten the gun so that it's aiming away from me and that's it. Much easier to do than explain, give it a try.
Jack Flash
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Not in my post, it doesn't.
Here is the topic as I understand it from the original post:
"... a member was open carrying in a horizontal shoulder holster. The gun pointed to everyone behind him."
If you re-read my posts, that is the only point I am addressing, and the "similar concerns" that some other types of holsters would also seem to raise. I didn't say "identical concerns" since I am willing to acknoledge that having the muzzle point at someones upper torso/head may be perceived as more dangerous than having the muzzle point lower on a bystander's body. Still, the concern should be similar.
KKG, you brought up the one-handed re-holstering issue. That's a concern of yours, not mine, as it seems to me to be off-topic from the original post. Re-read the OP and see if you don't agree. I'm done.
Originally posted by Big Foot:
I tried it, and it can be done, but with me, great difficulty and some pain. Must be old-age arthritis....
See, told ya. Obviously not an everyday thing (especially with arthritis), but it's nice to know that in a pinch you could draw with your weak hand, too.
Bobwtn
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In a good quality holster, covering the trigger, hammer if any, etc. with a securing device, it is as safe as anyother method. Safest place for the handgun is in its holster. Most accidents with cops and others is when it is in the hand or coming out or into a holster. Training helps to eliminate that risk, but always being alert is important. I usually carry in front pocket, so when I sit, as one poster said, it is point at someone across from me. I have a nice Galco shoulder holster and I feel it is safe and secure.
i have a horizontal shoulder holster. i find it the most comfortable way of carrying for a few reasons:
1) i drive a lot
2) more concealment, at least in the fall/winter
3) belt/paddle holsters tend to pull down my pants lol funny but true.
i dont worry too much though, especially when i carry my .45. having the safety on at all times with a DA trigger decreases the likelihood of the gun "going off." i am a bit more wary of my Sigma because it doesnt have a manual safety. im prolly just paranoid though.
1) i drive a lot
2) more concealment, at least in the fall/winter
3) belt/paddle holsters tend to pull down my pants lol funny but true.
i dont worry too much though, especially when i carry my .45. having the safety on at all times with a DA trigger decreases the likelihood of the gun "going off." i am a bit more wary of my Sigma because it doesnt have a manual safety. im prolly just paranoid though.
