Sounds like I may work for the same security company! I also was not a fan of the M&P 40. And I also love my Shield!
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How many Military & Police actually carry the M&P?
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Sounds like I may work for the same security company! I also was not a fan of the M&P 40. And I also love my Shield!
Scott
This article mentions a few Departments.
Police Sidearms: The Handguns of America's 10 Largest Departments
Police Sidearms: The Handguns of America's 10 Largest Departments
According to the Cabela's folks in Tualatin... the Oregon HP carries them. My son's sister-in-law with Detroit PD (detective) carries one.
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Bristol TN PD now carries the M&P 9, used to carry Glocks about 15 years ago... Troops are happy with them.
It's all about cost!
Flint Michigan PD carries M&P 45's. Genesee County Michigan, in which Flint is in, carries Sigs. It's a tossup anymore between Glock, Sig and M&P's.
The US military is going to the Sig.
The 40 is disappearing fast, everyone in going back the 9 m/m. They can't get officers to qualify with the 40, as felt recoil is worse than a 45. Which is really nothing more than a lack of training!
The bottom line is cost! Who had the lowest bid a purchase time? As far as caliber it's also cost related, what is the cheapest caliber. And firearms training is the first thing PD's cut in a budget!
Plus, most new officers coming into the profession these days have no military background, did not grow up in a hunting or shooting family, so their first introduction to a gun is at the academy. Make it as easy on them as possible to qualify. If not the first time recycle them until they do.
It's hard recruiting police candidates these days, so make it easy for whatever you can get. What a shame, but then look at what they do to the good officers on the street these days!
Food for thought!
Flint Michigan PD carries M&P 45's. Genesee County Michigan, in which Flint is in, carries Sigs. It's a tossup anymore between Glock, Sig and M&P's.
The US military is going to the Sig.
The 40 is disappearing fast, everyone in going back the 9 m/m. They can't get officers to qualify with the 40, as felt recoil is worse than a 45. Which is really nothing more than a lack of training!
The bottom line is cost! Who had the lowest bid a purchase time? As far as caliber it's also cost related, what is the cheapest caliber. And firearms training is the first thing PD's cut in a budget!
Plus, most new officers coming into the profession these days have no military background, did not grow up in a hunting or shooting family, so their first introduction to a gun is at the academy. Make it as easy on them as possible to qualify. If not the first time recycle them until they do.
It's hard recruiting police candidates these days, so make it easy for whatever you can get. What a shame, but then look at what they do to the good officers on the street these days!
Food for thought!
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CPD (Columbus Division of Police in Ohio) carry the M&P as well. I don't think SIG will make the inroads they once thought given the hiccups noted in the DOD reports. The army also bought some Glocks last year.
And Glock (to a lesser extent)
It really isn't the recoil of the .40 S&W (technically the rearward motion of the 45 is greater), it's the muzzle flip being a higher velocity and higher pressure round. I still think .40 S&W is a great caliber. Personally I carry .380 ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357 SIG. I think they're all great rounds.
Has recruiting police ever been hard?
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Personally, I wish more police departments would carry the SIG P229 chambered in .357 SIG to bring down the cost of ammo (coupled with the opinion it is a better round). I don't believe for one moment everyone is welcoming the Glock 19 at the Secret Service. I think that was a deal to pacify Glock after Glock sent its protest to the GAO. We likely saw something similar when the Beretta M9 was adopted. That was highly controversial as well and ended up going before congress. Not long after special forces started using the P226, P228 and later the USSS adopted the P229. I don't think it was coincidence. I am not a fan of the P320, but I am a big P229 fan. There's a reason the USSS picked this weapon. In fact, they weren't even considering the 9mm until they discovered testing the Glock 31, 32 and 33 that the P229s handled the .357 SIG round better than Glock for its weakest shooters. Of course, M&P, Glock and SIG are all still great picks, as is 9mm, .40 S&W and .357 SIG.
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