How many of you have fired full house .357 Magnums - - - in your snubbies

[turnejm]

357 Mags for a Snubbie?

First Question: Yes
I have a couple of Model 60's with 3 inch barrels. Wouldn't hesitate to shoot 158gr. hollow point whatevers in it!
With the model 360M&P, it is kept in the house with Federal Hydra-Shoks all the time!
Second Question: Yes
Hell Yea! Hand Cannon!

 

[rwsmith]

My hand and wrist....

I'll be pleased...and more than a little amazed...if I make it to seventy-eight, never mind still being able to shoot full power .357s out of a revolver, snubby or any other kind.

My hand and wrist protest when and after firing full house loads from a 6" 'L' frame.

 

[lhump1961]

IMHO it's all about the shooter not the gun. My K's shoot full 158g .357's just fine but with a fair amount of recoil so I don't shoot them often...the 2 1/2" 686 recoils perhaps a bit less with full loads. I hand load to suit myself and what I feel I can shoot accurately and follow up quickly. A persons hand size plays a role as well. I'm in with the "shot placement trumps ballistics" group so that usually dictates my load. I don't shoot .38's in my .357's much just 'cause I don't like the short burn ring.

 

[chief38]

I just did a post about this very subject last week:

BUFFALO BORE .38 SPECIAL VS .357 MAGNUM FROM A SNUBBY

It is in the Ammo section if you are interested.

I would certainly recommend that serious Magnum revolver carriers either buy or borrow a descent Chronograph to compare the difference between let's say Buffalo Bore LSWCHP +P .38 Special (OR SIMILAR) and compare that to .357 Magnums. Out of 2 inch barrels there is little to no difference in velocities of most 158 grain .357 Magnums I have tested compared to the +P BB .38 Special. In some instances the BB +p is actually faster!

The downside to .357 Magnums which were designed for 6" and longer barrels is so great from a 2" Snubby, that it just makes no sense to me especially since there is little to no upside from shooting .357's from a 2" barrel.

 

[RobsTV]

I just did a post about this very subject last week:

BUFFALO BORE .38 SPECIAL VS .357 MAGNUM FROM A SNUBBY

It is in the Ammo section if you are interested.

I would certainly recommend that serious Magnum revolver carriers either buy or borrow a descent Chronograph to compare the difference between let's say Buffalo Bore LSWCHP +P .38 Special (OR SIMILAR) and compare that to .357 Magnums. Out of 2 inch barrels there is little to no difference in velocities of most 158 grain .357 Magnums I have tested compared to the +P BB .38 Special. In some instances the BB +p is actually faster!

The downside to .357 Magnums which were designed for 6" and longer barrels is so great from a 2" Snubby, that it just makes no sense to me especially since there is little to no upside from shooting .357's from a 2" barrel.

I think the key with your test only confirms 158 gr bullets need longer barrels to get the heavy weights moving. 125gr bullets are suggested more often with short barrels, and as shown from quality chrono testing, these lighter bullets in full house magnum loads do indeed achieve a large velocity increase over 38's in same short barrel. A short barrel will always be handicapped, but if you can find a way to reduce that handicap, such as shooting lighter weight, higher velocity magnum loads, that seems like the smart thing to do. The knock down power of 125gr magnums, 1394 fps, 539 ft/lbs, exceeds the knockdown power of the 158gr magnum's at 1000fps, 351 ft/lbs in same short barreled gun. Some K-Frames had an issue with the higher velocity 125gr magnums, but this is not a problem with J-Frames rated for 357 magnums. Full house loads and the gun "should" out last generations of shooters.

 

[balin]

my 18 oz 386pd loves the .357 round!!!!

 

[mg357]

I fired two rounds of .357 through my uncles ruger sp101 .357 magnum revolver I will NEVER do it again! it kicked like an angry mule!

 

[at_liberty]

As the above post shows, there has been little discussion and lots of speculation that is not based on experience or data.

I think the discussion is telling you that you can have your data.

 

[DonD]

Don't know how this poll works, automatically I assume.

Well...nothing about the numbers makes sense. The poll says 140 voters yet there are 145 responses. The percentage numbers simply don't add up mathematically as well. Bizarre. Don

 

[DonD]

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I fired two rounds of .357 through my uncles ruger sp101 .357 magnum revolver I will NEVER do it again! it kicked like an angry mule!

Seriously?? It simply isn't that harsh. Sometimes if you want serious performance you have some price to pay but the SP101 simply isn't abusive. Don

 

[bronco45]

I shoot Buffalo Bore Med Velocity 125 grain 357s for 1225 out of my 640 Pro and my Model 66 2.5". Blast and flash is minimal for 357 and recoil is quite manageable. I find the recoil to be less from this BB load than from the 158+P 38 Load, that BB offers. Accuracy and recovery rate are quite good.

My practice load for both weapons is a 158swc @1000fps and is a good general working load.

 

[Knigge]

I shot my new snubby for the first time today, i shot a couple of hundred wadcutter target loads and a handfull of max loaded357 magnum with 180gr HP bullets, i found the 357 to be really fun to shoot, no problems with the recoil...but hey, i love to shoot my 4" 44mag with heavy loads too

 

[eb07]

I think the discussion is telling you that you can have your data.

Kind of like the global warming crowd. Even when presented with data clearly refuting their fantasy claims, they still blather on with their beliefs.

 

[at_liberty]

Seriously?? It simply isn't that harsh. Sometimes if you want serious performance you have some price to pay but the SP101 simply isn't abusive. Don

Sorry but mileage varies on that point. There are a lot of sore knuckles out there, causing some attempt to solve the problem with grip changes. The gun's a little brute that some can handle and some cannot (assuming use of 357 Magnum ammo).

 

[at_liberty]

Kind of like the global warming crowd. Even when presented with data clearly refuting their fantasy claims, they still blather on with their beliefs.

But it's not about velocity for those who say they wouldn't shoot 357 from a snubbie. It's about the abuse they take in doing so. Those who want to talk about data are kind of hijacking this topic.

 

[uncleted327]

I just did a post about this very subject last week:

BUFFALO BORE .38 SPECIAL VS .357 MAGNUM FROM A SNUBBY

It is in the Ammo section if you are interested.

I would certainly recommend that serious Magnum revolver carriers either buy or borrow a descent Chronograph to compare the difference between let's say Buffalo Bore LSWCHP +P .38 Special (OR SIMILAR) and compare that to .357 Magnums. Out of 2 inch barrels there is little to no difference in velocities of most 158 grain .357 Magnums I have tested compared to the +P BB .38 Special. In some instances the BB +p is actually faster!

The downside to .357 Magnums which were designed for 6" and longer barrels is so great from a 2" Snubby, that it just makes no sense to me especially since there is little to no upside from shooting .357's from a 2" barrel.

Your conclusions were incorrect and unsubstantiated in your other post the same as in this one. I guess the more light you shine on some people the blinder they get.

 

[eb07]

But it's not about velocity for those who say they wouldn't shoot 357 from a snubbie. It's about the abuse they take in doing so. Those who want to talk about data are kind of hijacking this topic.

So I shoot 357 out my LCR all the time, there are videos at the links to prove it. I train with it. it's not a real issue. yeah it's got more recoil but it's manageable. I am accurate with it one handed and on the move... as shown in my DATA. So are we to ignore that real life data too and continue on with blinders?

If YOU cannot handle it, then yes, it is worthless to you, so shoot 38's. But to make blanket uneducated statements that there is not a difference or that it is bad for all of us because YOU can't handle it, is not only wrong, but pompous. Plenty of people have piped up in this thread to prove those statements wrong. I even provided chrony AND video data. That is ignored as the OP is MIA. So yeah, let's ignore the data and keep making inaccurate blanket statements.

 

[307-Niner]

Can a 38sp +P deliver these numbers from the same length barrels? This is Buffalo Bore 125 gr Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Low Flash 357 Magnum Pistol and Handgun Ammo.

12878768-0FEF-4795-A67F-5BDB8CB3EB2B_1.png Photo by aklowriderz71 | Photobucket

 

[307-Niner]

^^^ Does my picture show up for you guys? I can't see it...

Strange.

 

[DonD]

Sorry but mileage varies on that point. There are a lot of sore knuckles out there, causing some attempt to solve the problem with grip changes. The gun's a little brute that some can handle and some cannot (assuming use of 357 Magnum ammo).

I don't much care for the original grips, they do not help with mitigating recoil. I have a set of Hogues on it and that really does help. Don