How much to live/retire in the Philippines?

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So, I slave away here for a few more years and retire from my county LEO job and want to live like a king in the Philippines. Can I do it?

How much for my walled Hacienda, with maid service, and how much to live on monthly.

A white sandy beach would be really nice too.

Emory
 
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How much to be PAID to live in the Phillipines? Not enough money in the world...
 
crofoot629:

I can't answer your question but I want to share a story with you. You need to be sure that the Phillipines is for you.

A few years ago, my company (I'm a drone, not the prez, lol) built a plant there and our guys frequented a restaurant at the end of the pier along the water. Quite a relaxing setting, sun, nice breeze, chirping birds... Our electrical engineer was enjoying dinner when a rat bit his toe. This pretty well ended Larry's dinner and he ended up in the hospital for about six weeks. He was quite ill and I am quite happy to say that he survived but he doesn't wear sandals much these days. Not sure if he would have received the same medical treatment if he was a local (native or ex-pat retiree). No guarantee that Phillipino rats will chomp on your toes frequently but tropical places take some getting used to and come with different challenges to living. Just do your research before you ship out.

Chris
 
Having lived in the Philippines for a short time, may I suggest that you consider Del Rio, Texas instead.
Some of the same advantages, few of difficulties.
Haciendas? Sure. Maids? Got'em. Sandy beaches? See Lake Amistad. And the best part? USA. You can get just as exotic there as you can in Angeles City, PI.
 
Rats. About 10 years ago a customer was bitten by a Rat in a well known fried chicken franchise about 4 miles from me in Illinois. I believe Manhattan Island has more rats per capita than anywhere else on earth? That said, there are 2, born in the Philippines, close to brilliant, IT guys at work. They constantly speak of returning with the relative fortune accrued here, and living like kings. When you trap them into a reality talk, things are not so rosy. Your cost of living may be lower but so will your available standard of living. I also believe more moslems live there than anywhere else, outside of the Arab nations.
 
Don't forget its a terrorist training facility of unimaginable proportions. They have more Al Qaeda problems than we know about here in the states since the MSM doesn't like to discuss potential threats and dangers to our way of life.
 
What are your priorities?
You can live cheap, but you will not have the infrastructure support you are used to here. I would consider it if I were in my twenties and considered myself relatively immortal but now... While MS may be considered a third world country by some, it suits me and I will happily stay here and travel for a visit to places like the PI. YMMV
 
I could never live in a country that is spelled with a PH but the people use an F to refer to themselves....

Sip,

You say, "Filipino", I say "Phillipino"...

If any of my former English teachers came across this thread, they would be rightly disappointed in my spelling skills. :o Oh, da shame of it all...

Chris
 
I haven't been to the PI in about twenty years, but back then it seemed like all the bars were owned by retired Aussie and Yank GIs.

I think you could probably live very well there on a US retirement. There are beaches, beautiful girls, Muslim terrorists, and exotic food. You can scuba dive all you want. The Filipino people are very gracious folks. Maybe our forum member who lives there will chime in.

If you Google "retire in the Philipines" you'll get a ton of info.
 
I spent 2 years there 40 years ago. The people then were your best friends during the day, would rob you blind when the sun went down. The weather sucks, the bugs the same, and the smell in the villages was something I don't want to remember. There was a movie made a few years ago called "Cavite"...a real lousy movie, but the street scenes brought back a lot of memories. Watch it if you can find it. Of course you will have to leave your guns home...only the police, bad guys and terrorists are allowed to have them. Personally, I wouldn't go back if I won an all expense paid trip.

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-cavite26may26,0,452853.story

Cavite City Photo Gallery by Bill Fabianic at pbase.com

Philippines Photo Gallery by Bill Fabianic at pbase.com
 
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What are your priorities?
You can live cheap, but you will not have the infrastructure support you are used to here. I would consider it if I were in my twenties and considered myself relatively immortal but now... While MS may be considered a third world country by some, it suits me and I will happily stay here and travel for a visit to places like the PI. YMMV

Comments like this one are Dead Bang-on accurate. When I moved to Mexico 20 years ago, I thought "I'm in for some sun!" However, over the years, there is NO DOUBT you start to miss some of the simple conveniences the U.S. or Canada have built-in to their lifestyles that the rest of the World has yet to catch up to.

Mexico is a lot closer to the U.S. that Manila, but you would be SURPRISED at the number of simple everyday items we just don't have here. Root Beer comes to mind. Mountain Due. Locktite. Decent phone service. Electric power that stays on. Water you can slurp in the shower and not get really sick from -- or maybe not -- it's a crap shoot (literally, because there is OFTEN crap in the water).

I mean, there IS the sun, that part is correct. And the maids, of course, although I personally don't have a maid. Too expensive, and they can't do anything I can't do myself. I have a cleaning lady come by once a week and do the "deep clean", that's about it. Oh, and since I got married, the wife helps keep things clean and tidy as well, so that doesn't hurt either.

In the last 20 years I have seen NO END of Canadian and American Expats come here declaring that they are "out of it for GOOD!" who go right back to it (Canada or the U.S.) after only a few years because, basically, they just can't STAND the Banana Republic mentality, attitudes, and never-get-anywhere pace of life that they THOUGHT they were looking for in the first place.

My advice? Go on an EXTENDED vacation without actually BUYING a place in the Phillipines. See how you like it. See how the natives' attitudes towards you CHANGE when you are no longer a tourist, but live there. And it does, believe me. Consider this; you're living in Chipmunk, Alberta, Canada, and working in an Ice Cream Store. You're a Canadian. A bunch of...well, pick one, Ukrainian tourists for example, come by your store EVERYDAY and buy Ice Cream. They whine and moan about the cold, and why don't more people polka, yadda, yadda, yadda, but they do it in Ukrainian! Okay, fine, they're buying, they're tourists, it's cool.

Now, same group, five years later. They've MOVED in, they're staying, and they still whine and moan about everything Canadian (although they no longer buy so much Ice Cream), but they still do it in Ukrainian. Guess what? They aren't going to be too popular.

Same thing happens here. Don't let anyone tell you that Mexicans can't be as predjudiced as anyone else, once you MOVE here, you better get the Spanish down, or you are in for some real fun times (and I mean that with all the sarcasm possible). Most people from Canada and the U.S. surprisingly don't get the Spanish down near well enough, and they get sick of being treated poorly. You often hear "I didn't used to get treated this way!" Well, of course not. THEN, you were a tourist. NOW, you LIVE here. They're gonna crap all over you if you don't turn on the light bulb. I am pretty sure that the Phillipines aren't going to be a whole lot different, although I have never been there, I admit.

The "expat thing" suits some people. Others don't get along with it so much. A lot of the problem is that things are so different from home, and there's a lot of stuff you used to do or used to be able to buy that you just no longer can and it sorta starts to suck. I still like the sun...but I have to admit, AS I GET OLDER, I get crabbier that things just don't seem to change for the better at all. Maybe someday I too will end up going back in frustration, or maybe not.

But if I were you, I'd spend some considerable TIME living in the place without making any major financial investments to see how things stack up. You won't lose your shirt that way if you suddenly find out that things aren't what they cracked up to be. AND, if you find you like it, you'll know a lot more about what's going on around you and get better deals that you ever would "fresh off the boat" as it were.
 
IMHO, You absolutely DO NOT want to retire and live in the Phillipines.

I was there in the military and can tell you that you can have a maid to keep the house up and she will have friends who will take everything you own when you leave for work.

Have a friend who wife is Phillipino. Warned him but they moved there anyhow. They lasted about 6 months and gave up and moved back. He still owns what is left of the house. Minus the copper plumbing, the HVAC, etc. Cannot sell it.

You think the current adminstration is bad...wait until you get there!

He learned the hard way.

Have another friend who is also married to a Philipino and he speaks Tagalog as good as the natives. He and his wife went back, they too lasted about 6 months and came back.

I believe it cost $9,000 to emigrate into the country and I think he said $7.500 for he and his wife to leave.

Del Rio, TX as someone else suggested sounds GREAT.
 
Having lived in the Philippines for a short time, may I suggest that you consider Del Rio, Texas instead.
Some of the same advantages, few of difficulties.
Haciendas? Sure. Maids? Got'em. Sandy beaches? See Lake Amistad. And the best part? USA. You can get just as exotic there as you can in Angeles City, PI.


Jeez I must really be missing something! I've lived in Del Rio for 28 years. Cheap we is, exotic we aint. $400,000 will build you a palace though. Very good bass fishing, no hunting unless you own the land or lease it for hunting. It's considered very bad form to ask to hunt on someone elses land here in Texas. You are expected to wait to be asked.

D
 
I lived in the Philippines from 1982 until 1995, with a couple of years of that time in the Washington DC area and almost three years in mainland China, although I kept my apartment in Manila during this time. I occasionally go back to the Philippines to visit.

Money - Depends on where you want to live, and how you want to live.
My expenses in Manila, including a very nice apartment, and two maids, was approximately $2,000 a month. This did not include a car, which was paid for by the company I started and ran the last ten years or so.

If you do not have to work then you can choose where you want to live. It will be considerably cheaper than Manila, the capital.

Major reasons I lived in the Philippines for so long, after a three year tour at the US Embassy, were the many great friends I made easily, and the hunting. The hunting was the best I've ever had over such a long time. Migratory snipe come in from China late August and stay until March. There are no bag limits. Duck hunting was also fantastic, and was just about year round, for both native and migratory ducks.

Medical care was excellent, and very cheap. You may be able to get some sort of insurance. I think Tricare is actually available there, if you are eligible for it in the US.

The major reason I came back in 1995 was to take of my mother who was terminally ill. Being with her in the US made the last years of her life much better. After returning to the US I married an American lady who is employed here in the US. She shows no sign of wanting to retire, so I have not made plans to take her to the Philippines. It is not quite a as inviting for American women as it is for American men, particularly single American men. If I were single now, and again working as a contractor in the Sand Box I would surely buy an apartment or condo in Manila. A luxury apartment is about $50,000. Outside of Manila they would be much cheaper, but ownership for an American might be more difficult to arrange.

I hope the above is useful. If you want more info, let me know.

RKO
 
From the monkey’s mouth.

May I ask why you thought of retiring in the Philippines? It may help you decide better if you knew why you got interested in the first place. You have lived most of your life in the US, I assume. To transfer to a country whose culture is different from yours is truly going to be a challenge, to say the least. To move to a country considered by some as a terrorist training facility of unimaginable proportions would be a mistake my friend. I wouldn’t have any of that myself.

Other than that, yes, your dollar would be worth a whole lot more here (current exchange is around 49 to 1). You have to choose the right places to be in depending on the kind of “exposure” you want. You have to realize though that you are coming from the most powerful nation whose culture is well suited for you, and that the Philippines is a far cry from that, again, to say the least. So I suggest you ask around some more. Crime is pretty high on some areas, I must admit, but if you get to know the right people to ask for the best place to live in about, you cannot go wrong. We have tons of beautiful places here now, believe it or not. If you’re looking for technology and comfort like in the US you won’t find it here so please think about that.

I respect the comments made by some about their very bad experiences here. I have no doubt they really happend. But there are a lot better places to got to that may change your mind.

I own and carry a firearm. I am not a police officer, so either I am a bad guy or a terrorist…take your pick.
 
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