How much would you pay for a model 19

[roaddog28]

Hi everyone,
Ran into a model 19 no dash today at my local gun shop. In good condition with minor holster wear. Did revolver check and no issues. Forcing cone is excellent and no evidence of flame cutting. No box and the revolver does not have the original grips. Basically a good shooter. Shop is asking $650. I would like to get a good M19 to go with my M66. But is $650 to high for a shooter grade M19? The no dash is great and I love pin and recessed revolvers but at that kind of price I would like the original grips and box. Any input or suggestions would be great!

Regards,
roaddog28

 

[VM]

IMO, with the description of the gun and no accessories I would think it's atleast $150-200 high.
Be patient and you'll find a complete pkg in better condition.
FYI - P&R'd Combat Magnums went thru dash four.

Good luck

 

[aterry33]

Four screw Model 19s are pretty hard to find, but I agree, it's about $100 too high.

If it were really mint, $600 wouldn't be a bad price. Depends how bad you want it.

 

[redlevel]

Wow. It seems to me that P&R 19s have jumped at least $100 in the last couple of months. I agree, $650 is too much for that gun. Based on your description, and my recent experience, it is a $500 gun.

I have tried to negotiate on several P&R 19s in the last couple of months. All were shooter grade guns with some finish wear. All sold within a day or so at the asking price of $500. So much for negotiating.

 

[Jack Flash]

I agree with the "so much for negotiating" sentiment.

If it is really nice, temptation may get the best of me and make me overpay by $100 just to have it. My more rational side would object, thinking that I am contributing to driving up the cost of guns by this type behavior.

Which side wins? Usually that's a function of the length of time since my last such purchase multiplied by how much money is in my wallet that day.

 

[aterry33]

It is tough collecting out of production guns (or out of production anything for that matter) because:

1) A lot of buying has to be done long distance, over the internet, and many times you can't hold the gun in your hand first. Occasionally someone will misrepresent a firearm's condition, etc.

2) There aren't any more being made, so many times, the supply is pretty low. If you're looking for a 4" 19 then it's easy to find one. But then you start adding variables like 4 screw, good condition, etc., and you may be left paying more than you would like to.

But that's collecting! Many of the deals I make, if I posted them, someone would probably say you paid $100 or $150 too much for that gun, but when you're buying a 1960 Highway Patrolman in mint condition, like I just did, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, no pun intended

 

[Combat]

Yeah right

A 4 screw 19 is very high on my want list.I wouldn't feel bad at all getting a very good one for $500.00.For $650.00 it would have to be LNIB with all the trimmings to not hurt my feelings to bad when I bought it.BUT,don't listen to me,I keep telling myself if I can just get this gun I'll be done with mod 19's.Unless you count the pre 19 5 screw I've always wanted.

 

[wewaslim]

I picked up a 99% 4" 19-3 (P & R, blued) today for $ 425 from an individual. They are still out there, just harder to find. Bill

 

[tocohillsguy]

My guess is that a LNIB would run closer to $800 and maybe much more. I'm not sure at what point they changed to the fluted screwdrivers from the knurled ones, but you can add another $100 if it comes with a knurled screwdriver. Start deducting for lack of the original box (5 to 10%), tools ($25 or $125 depending on the correct screwdriver), grips ($100 for worn grips?), and condition (you be the judge). My guess...I would be surprised if it's over priced by more than $75. Remember this is a 4 screw not just a P&R.

 

[CapnHawk]

Take into consideration that RoadDog28 is in California and Model 19's are now few and far between due to draconian regulations/laws in the Golden State.

 

[Firehouse]

My Wife got me a -4 P&R for Christmas of 2008. I want to say she gave around $550 for it then. A little high (maybe), no box and docs but it looks great. Sounds like $650 is a bit steep to me too.

 

[649 Bodyguard]

Two gunshows ago I saw a model 63 it was at 99% or better. The dealer was asking $750.00 plus tax out the door. I ask him if it had its box and all the goodies. He said it had it all. The gunshow before this one, another dealer had a model 63 for $550.00 no box or goodies, and it had been dropped to the ground hitting cement. He would not budge on the price at all. Anyway, back to the first gun, I had to make up my mind fast, I walked around the show for ten minutes, came back, saw somebody else looking at my gun, and I thought I had lost it. The guy sat the gun down and walked away. So I went up to the dealer and I offered him $650.00 out the door. He thought about for awhile, He said he had to make a phone call to his store, ( His store was not opened yet ) and about 30 minutes later while he was on the phone, he gave me the thumbs up, and took my offer, I shot the gun again last night, I have not looked back since. So My point is, sometimes you get lucky and get a great deal, and sometimes you get lucky and get a good deal. I think I got a good deal because if I paid, lets say a hundred to much. I`ll just make that up by eating a little less food each time I go out to eat. Or smoke less cigarettes in a week. ( I have since quit smoking for good ) - ( At the last gun show I bought a model 60 with my cigarette money ) You`ll be supprise how you can make up a $100.00 bucks if you really want to. So if you like it, buy it, and don`t look back.

 

[cgt4570]

I sold a 1960 Model 19-no dash last week on the forum classifieds for $850. It was in a box (probably not its original box) with accessories, etc. Condition was 99%. Buyer and seller were both happy. It was sporting original above-average grain diamond targets, though.

 

[JSR III]

The price seems a little high to me, however, there are some folks here on the forum that would say no price is too high, the gun was just bought too early.

Only you know what you have seen over the last year or so and how available a particular model is and how badly you want one.

For me, I try to strike the best deal that I can and then if the gun is still slightly high, I justify it in my own mind by comparing it to money related things. OH, that $30 is only 2 30 packs or that $100 is only 2 more hours of work or that is only a half days pay etc.

Five years from now when they are selling for $850, you will look back and recall what a great deal you got for only $650.

 

[redlevel]

Two gunshows ago I saw a model 63 it was at 99% or better. The dealer was asking $750.00 plus tax out the door. I ask him if it had its box and all the goodies. He said it had it all. The gunshow before this one, another dealer had a model 63 for $550.00 no box or goodies, and it had been dropped to the ground hitting cement. He would not budge on the price at all. Anyway, back to the first gun, I had to make up my mind fast, I walked around the show for ten minutes, came back, saw somebody else looking at my gun, and I thought I had lost it. The guy sat the gun down and walked away. So I went up to the dealer and I offered him $650.00 out the door. He thought about for awhile, He said he had to make a phone call to his store, ( His store was not opened yet ) and about 30 minutes later while he was on the phone, he gave me the thumbs up, and took my offer, I shot the gun again last night, I have not looked back since. So My point is, sometimes you get lucky and get a great deal, and sometimes you get lucky and get a good deal. I think I got a good deal because if I paid, lets say a hundred to much. I`ll just make that up by eating a little less food each time I go out to eat. Or smoke less cigarettes in a week. ( I have since quit smoking for good ) - ( At the last gun show I bought a model 60 with my cigarette money ) You`ll be supprise how you can make up a $100.00 bucks if you really want to. So if you like it, buy it, and don`t look back.

I believe you got a heck of a deal, especially if it is a pinned gun. I think that Model 63 is one of the most desirable little guns S&W ever made. It is one of the "most-funnest" guns to just shoot and plink around with that I ever owned.

 

[slowburninsteve]

Did I get a good deal?

I just did a trade for this 19-4 in nickel. I've got $430.00 invested in the trade. It is in probably 99% condition, with a few very small pinpoints of nickel off opposite sides of the cylinder. Pinned & recessed. No flame cutting, locks up like a bank vault. No box or papers. Did I do ok????
Steve

 

[Jack Flash]

Or smoke less cigarettes in a week.

Let's see, I haven't smoked a cigarette since the 1960's, so ... can someone calculate how many guns I'm due?

I quit drinking 8 years ago, so add all that money in too.

 

[Pilgrim]

19-3 $399 about a year ago...98% +

 

[RobertJ.]

I picked up a 99% 4" 19-3 (P & R, blued) today for $ 425 from an individual. They are still out there, just harder to find. Bill

That was a screamin' deal!

A few years ago, I found a 2.5", -5, in about 95%, and the dealer wanted $400. I snagged it instantly, and condered myself one of the lucky few!

 

[slowburninsteve]

You were right!!!

That was a screamin' deal!

A few years ago, I found a 2.5", -5, in about 95%, and the dealer wanted $400. I snagged it instantly, and condered myself one of the lucky few!

You were right!!! That was a great deal for a 2 1/2 incher!!!

Steve

(Didn't intend to hijack the thread, just joined in!)