How will American access to ammunition and components be impacted by these pledges?

[lrrifleman]

I am NOT making this post for political purposes!

I can appreciate the need for ammunition by the Ukrainian government. I can appreciate the desperation of the Ukrainians, as they may be fighting for the preservation of their existence!

The President of the Ukraine has put out a call for ammunition, which I saw as an appeal to the governments of the free world. I was a little surprised when at least two American companies (Ammo, Inc and Remington) stepped up and pledged a million rounds of ammunition each being manufactured and sent to the Ukraine. I do not begrudge the Ukraine for being the recipients of American corporate generosity.

However, I have to wonder, how will the American gun owning public be impacted by the corporate generosity? American ammo manufacturers can not meet current demand. Ammunition availability is spotty, and where it is available, the prices are almost 100% greater than pre-pandemic prices. Powder and primers, when they can be found, may carry unrealistic prices. In order to meet existing contracts, many chamberings just aren't being produced. Are we facing a new round of shortages? What will be the new price per round hurdle that we will face?

Just a few points to contemplate for the immediate future!

 

[Shark Bait]

Only time can answer those questions

 

[Oldfrt]

Don't know or care what the affect is in the domestic market, I do minimum shooting now, save the money, have a safe and cabinets full of components should the need arise. I also purchased some stock in Ammo Inc yesterday. My opinion is that the shortages are caused by scalpers hording and charging outrages prices, I refuse to support them and hope they choke on them like they did on toilet paper. Done with soap box.

 

[Green Frog]

A couple of million rounds would be the production of just a few days. The shortage here was in the hundreds of millions of rounds. It was starting to get a little better, so those to the Ukraine probably won’t make much of a blip in our market. This is all just my own guesstimate, you understand.

Froggie ��

 

[Laketime]

I cannot believe you even brought this topic up. This thread is in poor taste.Human beings are being slaughtered and your worried about range time.

 

[RCL-09]

I will gladly endure more of the "ammo shortage" if the cause is providing ammunition to the Ukranians so that they can continue to shoot russiasn invaders.

 

[smithman 10]

Ammo to Ukraine

I would think we are talking about 3 calibers, 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 9mm. I don't shoot much and the only caliber of the three I use at all is 9mm, and precious little of that.

If we can help the Ukrainians by shooting a little less or paying a little more, I'm all for it, as I would be even if I used a ton of all three.

 

[LostintheOzone]

Most of weapons being used by Ukrainian military aren't a mainstay of American shooters. Ukrainian military uses 5.45×39mm. We use NATO 5.56 x 45.

I don't know anyone who has a 5.45x39 rifle. I know some 7.62 x39 is common here but that's a old Soviet rifle not in use by modern militaries.

Don't worry. The ammo shortage will continue and prices will rise, but it won't because of Russia invading the Ukraine. The price of everything is going up. I predict 10% inflation this year. Probably should worry about the next time you fill up at the pump or your next trip to the market before ammo.

 

[deyomatic]

Unless Remington tooled up for it, they are not a manufacturer of 5.45x39. I believe Hornady was the only US manufacturer of that. I am not aware of any brass cased 5.45, either.

 

[Green Frog]

If my post suggested anything other than complete support of the Ukrainian cause, I humbly and sincerely apologize. If my own meager supplies of military appropriate ammo could be of any possible aid to their cause, it would be in shipment tomorrow. My point was meant to be that in the big scheme of things, their ammo needs are just a tiny drop in the bucket of American manufacturing capacity and they should get priority.

Charlie Shaeff
Green Frog

 

[luvsmiths]

That ammo may just help American soldiers also...

All the major ammo manufacturers, IN MY OPINION, should produce 24/7, every round they make for this. (Ukraine)
Shooting sports can wait.

American veterans are heading to Ukraine to join the country's fight against Russia: report

 

[murphydog]

An educated guess is the US produces about 5 billion (?!) rounds of centerfire ammunition in a year. You can't separate out this total by type, of course, but 1 million rounds takes less than 2 hours to make.

 

[LostintheOzone]

This is turning into a political debate. I see it being closed.

 

[murphydog]

Don't worry, it is being monitored.

 

[glenwolde]

If you want to help a Ukrainian, go book an AirBNB in Kyiv.

Ukrainians have received almost $2 million from Airbnb guests who never showed up | The Week

 

[luvsmiths]

If you want to help a Ukrainian, go book an AirBNB in Kyiv.

Ukrainians have received almost $2 million from Airbnb guests who never showed up | The Week

Airbnb stepped up too!

Airbnb.org - Host people fleeing Ukraine

 

[tlawler]

I say send all we possibly can, and Godspeed.

 

[The Norseman]

Unbelievable

Please close this thread.

This thought process is insulting and
makes me sick to my stomach.

I’ve worked with Europeans in my time
in the Service. They are Human beings
and need our help.

Very Un-American and selfish thinking!

 

[STORMINORMAN]

So, now we have a chance for some "gun guilt"?

I don't see why any apologies were needed in this thread: some people are just way too easily offended, regardless of the subject being discussed!

 

[mattallamerican]

i dont dare post what i think on here id be dinged or banned