I can't remain quiet any longer!

[leejack]

Here goes; in my humble opinion, the trigger on the Sigma was thee most overblown BS on the internet for years! The comments were repeated more times than the sun rising in the morning. It gave status to the cry babies, made them sound knowledgeable (not to those of us who knew better), as they blogged away in forum after forum.

I had hope it would be put to rest with the advent of the SD, but contrary to my hopes, it didn't. The majority of all the recent posts in this section are about modifying the SD trigger. What takes the cake, people are planning mods before they even get the gun or shoot the gun based on reading all this stuff!

Why buy this gun in the first place if it's not right for you? There are plenty of guns to choose from that have easier triggers.

The SD is easy to shoot.

OK, hammer away! LOL!

 

[biglatino74]

I have the 40 kick like an old mule but I like it that way.

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[GKC]

It's up to every man to chose what he wants to do with his guns, of course, but if I was going to buy a gun to tinker with and customize, I'd pick a Glock or a 1911...aftermarket accessories abound for them.

The SDVE was designed as a no-frills, basic, SELF DEFENSE weapon that functions reliably and well out of the box...it's not a target pistol. The trigger isn't like the trigger on a 1911, but it wasn't designed to be. It is actually lighter and smoother than the DA pull on many revolvers I have owned, as well as some DA/SA pistols (like SIGs and Ruger P-series.) I like a heavier trigger pull on a pistol with no external safety...that IS the safety. (That, and me, of course.)

While a lot of people have successfully modified their SDVEs, there are a number of people who have malfunctions after so doing...and, once modified, the lifetime warranty is invalidated. Some mods, like changing the sights, guide rod assembly, and take down lever won't affect the warranty...and the guide rod and take down lever are easily reversible should a problem arise, necessitating a trip to S&W.

Personally, I won't mess with the fire control group on the SDVE series. I've considered it, but if I want a gun with a "better" trigger (subjective definition) then I'll buy one designed that way. If you are focused on the trigger, there is no gun better than a 1911, IMO.

Of course, all this is just my opinion, which when paired up with a few dollars might get you a cup of coffee at a Starbucks. No muffins or anything else, though.

 

[MOONDAWG]

Here goes; in my humble opinion, the trigger on the Sigma was thee most overblown BS on the internet for years! The comments were repeated more times than the sun rising in the morning. It gave status to the cry babies, made them sound knowledgeable (not to those of us who knew better), as they blogged away in forum after forum.

I had hope it would be put to rest with the advent of the SD, but contrary to my hopes, it didn't. The majority of all the recent posts in this section are about modifying the SD trigger. What takes the cake, people are planning mods before they even get the gun or shoot the gun based on reading all this stuff!

Why buy this gun in the first place if it's not right for you? There are plenty of guns to choose from that have easier triggers.

The SD is easy to shoot.

OK, hammer away! LOL!

I agree with your assessment of the S&W SD9VE. I liked my first gun so well I bought a duplicate to keep it company. They both remain box stock.

It never ceases to amaze me at the folks who'll be perfectly happy with a 12-15 lb. double action revolver trigger but gag on at an 8 lb. defensive semiauto's trigger.

In my opinion these guns are the 21st century equivalent of the 1899 M&P (Ne Model 10). The bread and butter gun of which S&W sold over 6 million copies of since it's introduction.

It's simplicity of operation is laudable, it's reliability remarkable...and it's accurate to boot.

"Muck" with it if you must, but it's good to ride the river with just as it comes from the factory.

 

[catach22]

Despite seeing all the negative post about the trigger. I bought an sd40ve. Took it to the range and broke it in , straight out of the box no changes. After i shot 100 rounds through it i thought to myself "what the hell is wrong with the trigger?" Now if I can just find a new rear sight" I mean really a plastic sight. one of the best firearms i have ever used straight out of the box. The more i shoot it the better it gets. After a few hundred rounds i do not even notice the heavy trigger pull anymore, and it seems to get smoother with every pull. If anyone wants to know a stock m&p rear sight fits it perfectly. 16 dollars on midway

 

[SamMeow]

There are so many reviews about the SD9VE.
Even TTAG said it was a great pistol, but
Least Favorite Feature

That nasty-*** trigger. Get if fixed before you fire the first shot.

So naturally I left mine stock.
It isn't my fave, but I enjoy shooting it. Really good firearm that saved me some money for a spare.

 

[bp231986]

The heavy long trigger of my SW9VE has made me into a great shot. It will be frustrating at first but keep working on getter better on it and you will be amazed at how good of a shot that long heavy trigger will make you. After shooting that pistol for a while and than switching to a glock i thought i was a heck of a shot

 

[EBK]

Here goes; in my humble opinion, the trigger on the Sigma was thee most overblown BS on the internet for years! The comments were repeated more times than the sun rising in the morning. It gave status to the cry babies, made them sound knowledgeable (not to those of us who knew better), as they blogged away in forum after forum.

I had hope it would be put to rest with the advent of the SD, but contrary to my hopes, it didn't. The majority of all the recent posts in this section are about modifying the SD trigger. What takes the cake, people are planning mods before they even get the gun or shoot the gun based on reading all this stuff!

Why buy this gun in the first place if it's not right for you? There are plenty of guns to choose from that have easier triggers.

The SD is easy to shoot.

OK, hammer away! LOL!

I chose the SD for 2 reasons. I could afford it and 40 ammo was plentiful. As for the trigger I have had a tendon graft from my left foot to my index finger in my right hand. It was physically painful to shoot with the factory trigger so I found Apex and bought the trigger carry and duty kit. I was extremely happy with the results and had no other plans to change it.

Then Apex tactical offered to let a few of us test their magazine extensions and I just happened to be selected. Included with the extensions was their new trigger. That is how mine ended up the way it is.

 

[Steelhat]

When I was searching for my first pistol there were 2 to choose from, the SIG SP2022 and the SD9VE. The latter won because of the price tag.
I really don't mind the stock trigger but when I was chosen by Apex to test their mag extensions I changed the springs and trigger that they send me with it to give it a try. I could have got used to the long, heavy trigger pull but I liked the lighter trigger pull with reduced pre- and eliminated over travel better.
I still have to practice on my marksmanship and get rid of the habit of anticipating what makes me shoot low and left, but that's a different story.
I really love my SD and agree that the stock trigger is not as bad as many say.

 

[hmbiohazard]

clean and crisp. added AET and apex pring kit to mine. also galloway SS guiderod. shot great out of box. now shoots like a champ

 

[Pepsi]

I purchased a SD9VE in December 2013 @ Cabelas for a great price. I've kept it box stock and love everything about. It will eat any 9mm ammo input into it. Shoots accurate and fits my hand to a tee. Great gun, I highly recommend to any one to give it serious consideration should you be looking for a self defense weapon.

 

[leejack]

Welcome Pepsi!

You just got your first like!

 

[Pepsi]

Thank you lee jack for the welcome. Been reading the forums since I purchased the SD9VE. I like all the great commenters and info pasted on.

Owned several hand guns back in the early 70's but as kids came along I decided to sell them all off (S&W 32, Walther P38, & a PPK) and only kept one
Marlin Glenfield Model 60 rifle with the squirrel handle.

Recently the shooting sports have brought me back to owning several new guns. Nothing is more fun than a day at the range or out hunting game. Also since michigan is now a right to carry state, I'm pursuing my CPL.

 

[GKC]

When I was searching for my first pistol there were 2 to choose from, the SIG SP2022 and the SD9VE.

I'm just curious...why was there only two, and only these two? They are very different pistols, and a fairly different price range (at least around here, the SP2022 sells for about $450 and the SDVEs sell for about $320.)

 

[retired_diver]

...The SDVE was designed as a no-frills, basic, SELF DEFENSE weapon that functions reliably and well out of the box...it's not a target pistol. The trigger isn't like the trigger on a 1911, but it wasn't designed to be. It is actually lighter and smoother than the DA pull on many revolvers I have owned, as well as some DA/SA pistols (like SIGs and Ruger P-series.) I like a heavier trigger pull on a pistol with no external safety...that IS the safety. (That, and me, of course.)

I have a sw9f (one of the first that caused the "lawsuit") bought new, so I have had it longer than most. I knew going in to it that it was DAO but I already had a M27 and 629 so I went with SW not Glock. Ok with that already stated:
The trigger on mine was over 10lbs. I say over because I have a trigger scale that goes to 10lbs and it topped out and took a firm jerk to finally release the trigger (yes i know how to use it and got the same results many times), Heavy is one thing, but mine was gritty and that was after 1000's of rounds. As soon as the Apex spring kit came out I put one in and it worked; so an over 10lbs and gritty to 6.4lbs and way way smoother trigger travel. It is not and never will be a 1911 single action trigger pull. I still shoot and love my gunsmith worked 1911 trigger @3.2lbs. I also now love my sw9f a lot more with a 6lb pull; IMO over 10lb is too heavy.

 

[GKC]

IMO over 10lb is too heavy.

I'd have to agree with you on that. I once owned a SW version, and didn't like it primarily because of the trigger. Once the SD pistols came out, and then later the SDVE line, I was much happier with the trigger. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, other than my finger, but I'd guess my SDVE triggers are a little less than 8 pounds.

Would I like it if they were designed with a bit lighter trigger...say 6 pounds? Sure. It's just not worth it to me to modify the fire control group, though, and risk other issues (including losing the warranty)...but that's my decision, and each man has to decide what he wants to do with his guns for his own comfort/use.

 

[Jamie]

What's wrong with the Sigma trigger? Mines fine, played a bit with some springs, a little polishing, lots of shooting including IDPA, quityerbitchin'

 

[Arik]

It's perception. Some like the trigger, a lot dont. I love recoil. On Monday I shot my Mosin Nagant carbine and my Enfield 303 all day. Totaled a few hundred rounds. Others think 223 is too hard and go out to buy a rubber pad.

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[Steelhat]

I'm just curious...why was there only two, and only these two? They are very different pistols, and a fairly different price range (at least around here, the SP2022 sells for about $450 and the SDVEs sell for about $320.)

Being that I had an temp assignment back in 2002 with SIG Sauer in Germany I always wanted a SIG. The Classic P-Series were too far out of my budget so that made me try the SP2022 at a local range. Love the DA/SA trigger system.

And for the second Smith & Wesson has an international recognized reputation for high quality, just like SIG (besides others for sure).

I don't like Glocks, even though they are for sure great pistols, but just not for me (have their Austrian Army Knive though - great allround outdoor knive).

In march this year while shopping for my wife's and my ccw we tried the M&P 9C and .40C and the P239. Wifey liked the Sig best so I found one in .40 for her and came across a CPO P229SAS in .40 for me. I will keep the SD9VE as a nightstand gun because the SIGs got no rails.

I still have some other guns on my whishlist but have to do my research which one to get while accumulating the neccesary funds.

 

[GKC]

Being that I had an temp assignment back in 2002 with SIG Sauer in Germany I always wanted a SIG. The Classic P-Series were too far out of my budget so that made me try the SP2022 at a local range. Love the DA/SA trigger system.

SIGs are indeed very good guns...I've owned several, including a P229 9mm, a P228 9mm, a P220 .45, a P239 9mm, a P238, a P232, and a SP2022 9mm. I like the DA/SA action (I've also owned a couple of other DA/SA pistols, including Berettas, H&Ks, and Ruger P-series), but I finally decided to standardize on two types of weapons: 1911s and striker-fired, polymer-framed 9mms.