I contacted Dian Finestine

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I sent Finestine and all the others one of the Support Gun Rights letters...she answered....

"Mass shootings are a serious problem in our country, and I have watched this problem get worse and worse over the 40 years I have been in public life. From the 1966 shooting rampage at the University of Texas that killed 14 people and wounded 32 others, to the Newtown massacre that killed 20 children and 6 school teachers and faculty, I have seen more and more of these killings. I have had families tell me that they no longer feel safe in a mall, in a movie theater, in their business, and in other public places, because these deadly weapons are so readily available. These assault weapons too often fall into the hands of grievance killers, juveniles, gangs, and the deranged.
I recognize that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to bear arms, but I do not believe that right is unlimited or that it precludes taking action to prevent mass shootings. Indeed, in the same Supreme Court decision that recognized the individual right to bear arms , District of Columbia v. Heller , the Court also held that this right, like other constitutional rights, is not unlimited. That is why assault weapons bans have consistently been upheld in the courts, both before and after the Heller decision. I believe regulation of these weapons is appropriate. she said she gets letters from citizens pleading for gun laws and gun bans and there are far too many mass killings. These assault weapons need to be banned."
She didnt say anything about listening to pro gun folks statistics or people defending themselves
just gun haters and crybabies. 1966? Whitman? are you kidding me? He had no AK or AR. No cops had guns that could reach him just CITIZENS RIFLES. Just what does she consider a useable weapon for defense? 5 shot 38 against a mob of rioters burning down the city? So she will continue with her attack on gun rights. Her opinion matters more than ours. None of them care Obama to the last one of them dont care one lousy bit. (we already know that) They are in power and they intend to use that power HOWEVER they want. YOU DONT MATTER your nothing but a bank to drain for their uses. How does that make you feel? HR
 
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She has her agenda...and we have ours. The second amendment and not to be infringed means what it says , it is absolute and we the people are the enforcers of the Constitution. It is we the people that have fought all of this countries battles and it is "We the people that will guard against tratiors that would infringe on the second amendment" They can not take what we will not give them...They can not take our rights from us, we would have to agree to give thme up...and many of us that have fought for this country are not about to roll over for this government or any government that thinks they can take our freedom. If the government is willing to kill me to get my guns....then the government needs to be checked and we have that ability to do just that. People are not buying AR's in record numbers for nothing. This is a road that the government will not go down....or they will "go down" Freedom is the only thing worth fighting for...Rally to the cause and hope we never have to defend it.
 
You need to ask Finkstein why she and all of the other GUN HATERS have their own personal ARMED SECURITY for themselves and their famalies that is paid for by US!!!
I say if she wants a gun ban then she should do the noble thing and propose a bill to take away all paid GUNS from all politicians.
I don't know about any of you but I cannot pay for my own personal security and I by GOD will not let my family be defenceless!!!!
 
She should have been voted out of office the first time she pushed for gun bans. From the movie that I saw about the shooter in Texas he had tried to get help numerous times but he never got any . If it had not been for people in town with hunting rifles he would have shot more people. They want our guns and it does not matter that we have not caused a problem to any one they want us to pay the price for what some coward has done.All of these shooters claim they are crazy
but they all go where their is no one armed to do their cowardly deeds.
 
If her letter were made into a video, it would depict Feiney with her fingers in her ears while yelling, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA..... I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"
 
With all due respect to the Senator's office - Please,take ALL your med's Senator so you can come back from where ever you are.
 
With all due respect to the Senator's office - Please,take ALL your med's Senator so you can come back from where ever you are.

Either that or she needs to stop taking her meds so her head will clear.
 
She also stated today that "Veterans should not be exempt from an assault weapons ban because they MIGHT have PTS...".
 
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So why does she not have the courage to propose an outright ban and confiscation

People will accept nearly anything if it is introduced incrementally. We naturally assess our losses, or the severity of the situation from the last increment vs. the initial condition. Look how far they've already come from a discussion on "assault weapons"... now they are talking freely about removing guns from homes.. first from those "who deserve it ("..accused of violent domestic crimes.." not convicted.. accused..) to set a precedent and soften the response down the line. If those first people don't create a huge scene or a wiser legal challenge, it will continue until someone does.
 
Someone should ask Fienstien how she felt about ICE releasing Illegal felons in CA.

To Feinstein, they're called Democratic voters...

So why does she not have the courage to propose an outright ban and confiscation

People will accept nearly anything if it is introduced incrementally. We naturally assess our losses, or the severity of the situation from the last increment vs. the initial condition. Look how far they've already come from a discussion on "assault weapons"... now they are talking freely about removing guns from homes.. first from those "who deserve it ("..accused of violent domestic crimes.." not convicted.. accused..) to set a precedent and soften the response down the line. If those first people don't create a huge scene or a wiser legal challenge, it will continue until someone does.

This is exactly it. They know it can't happen all at once, so they will do it a little at a time.
 
Thats the same letter that someone else got that wrote to her....she really cares :rolleyes:
 
Ok, so I decided to do more. I sent Senator Feinstein an email protesting her agenda & pointing out that "shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says, etc. I quickly received an auto reply saying that she does not respond to out of state contacts, you must have a CA postal address. Well, I don't want to hear from her that badly, as in not a chance I would ever consider moving there. So, there you have it. She can file legislation that infringes the rights of people in all 50 states, but has no obligation to respond to 49 of them.
 
Harry, the bottom line is if its unconstitutional we also ignore it because its not a law. Not to be infringed is pretty simple for most of us to understand. Maybe its a good thing that this is happening now because we need to make some changes in who is allowed to run for elected office. I think a background check as detailed as ones we have to go through to work on nuclear submarines and a test to see if they understand the Constitution ...and if they can not pass muster....they can not even run for office. Its a shame that there are politicions that can not pass the background check to buy a firearm.....but they are allowed to propose bills that violate the Constitution. We need change and we need it yesterday. Also any politicion that proposes bills that are unconstitutional needs to answer to the people for their actions and face some kind of penalty, because they know better and they are not above the law. They need to be held responsible for their actions just as we are held responsible for our actions.
 
Thanks Buffalohunter. It continues to amaze me that they are not listening. But, I don't know how to change that in a state where I don't live or vote.
 
Rand Paul quoted something near and dear at C-PAC. He said "when we understand that power corrupts..and that absolute power corrupts absolutely.." [then we will understand why our government is structured the way it is and what must be done to keep it that way]. I'm always rooting for the kids that get it. Our world and time is fading.. and they have to figure out how to keep the real thing alive and balanced in their own way.
 
Lets hope the Supreme Court is not Corrupted.....But if a president can propose to Violate the Second Ammendment, maybe they can be too. I just hope they are honorable men. Next...they are going to have to find Oathbreakers to enforce the uncosntitutional laws they pass.....and they are going to be up against Oathkeepers that take this Oath serious. many Sheriffs, police and military will honor the Oath and the sleeping Giant are the Veterens that have served and still believe in the Oath we took and will not accept our freedom being trampled and out Constitution being ripped apart. This passing of unconstitutional laws that infringe on our second amendment rights will be opposed by men that are not willing to roll over and give up the freedom that too many good men have already paid for.
 
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I honor you cousin that paid the ultimate price and all the men that serve this Country plus our Leo's and Sheriffs and the elected officals that do understand and honor the Oath they took. The honorable men that serve will honor the Oath they took as will many of us that have served and are benifiting from the freedom that men like your cousin paid for. We must always remember the Oath we took and that this Country has always stood for Liberty and Justice for all...and we will not stand down and watch our Constitution and Bill of Rights be trashed. Thank you for your stand....there are a lot of us with you.
 
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The murder rate in the USA is 4 murders per 100,000 population. I agree that is too high but it is half of what it was 20 years ago and less than 1% were committed with rifles. Now 2012 was a particularly bad year for mass murder but the mass murder rate is 1.8 per 10,000,000 (ten million)population. That does not rise to the level of a crisis despite what they are trying to sell. They can't let a good crisis go to waste and where no crisis exists...well they will just create one.

Montana, reportedly the most heavily armed state has a murder rate that is 1/2 the national average in 2011 and of those 28 murders only 7 involved firearms of any description. My neighboring city of New Orleans has the highest murder rate in the world, a whopping 68/100,000 but you don't hear anyone talking about that because Louisiana is slightly less than average in terms of gun ownership.

As for the senator's interpretation of the second ammednment and supreme court ruling she is failing to read the entire judgement that states that firearms commonly held by citizens can not be restricted.

When ever a law abiding citizen tries to protect our second ammednment rights the anti gun zealots always throw up statements that we should not have bazookas and RPGs, which are arms that have been heavily regulated and generally restricted for more than 80 years. Unfortunately no one sees fit to correct such statements.
Let's face it we are loosing the war of words because the gun haters have been allowed to put out all kinds of misinformation without being checked. The average reactionary ill informed citizen believes that large cap magazines equals machine guns. Last week on one of the talking head news shows an organizer of a gun buy back in California stated that they bought back two RPGs which showed that we definitely needed some gun control. Of course no one was there to counter that statement.
 
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Ok, so I decided to do more. I sent Senator Feinstein an email protesting her agenda & pointing out that "shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says, etc. I quickly received an auto reply saying that she does not respond to out of state contacts, you must have a CA postal address. Well, I don't want to hear from her that badly, as in not a chance I would ever consider moving there. So, there you have it. She can file legislation that infringes the rights of people in all 50 states, but has no obligation to respond to 49 of them.
It used to be that senators were not elected but were appointed by the states they represented primarily to protect states rights and as part of the checks and balances between the elected congress, the states and the federal government. All that changed in 1913 with first the 16th ammendment that allowed the federal government to get its funding directly from the citizen via income tax and shut the state out of the loop. Then they passed the 17th ammendment that took the authority away from the state legislature to appoint senators and made them elected by popular vote. No longer would they do the bidding of the state as a whole and answer to the state legislature but rather pander to the whims of the electorate. Now instead of being representatives of their respective states they are agents of the all powerful federal government. Thank you, Woodrow Wilson.
 
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I tried contacting her once, NEVER DOING IT AGAIN! I must have written about 3 pages worth okay, but first i put where i live(texas), write my never ending story (which took about an hour) and finally send it. So i wait for a response, 10 minutes later i get an email saying, thank you for contacting my office, i am sorry but we are not taking letters from out of state at the moment due to a large volume. Please rewrite your letter and address it from California...-_- almost tossed my computer across the room..
 
Ha Ha yeah Ratstine doesnt care one bit how many people disagree with her. Shes only interested in her agenda...like Hussien the White House Vacation occupant....agendas agendas agendas sprinkled with lies lies lies....
 
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