I had a dud CCI Standard Velocity!!!!!!!!!

[Patrick L]

This isn't exactly Smith and Wesson related since I was shooting my Ruger MK II, but this seems to be the best place for this.

In the Monday Night Bullseye League I had a dud round of CCI Standard Velocity tonight! Next I suppose you'll tell me there's no Santa Claus.

In over 25 years of using these for NRA Bullseye, I have NEVER EVER EVER had a dud. This is the one and only rimfire ammo I can say that about. That's the very reason I settled on these so many years ago. I've NEVER needed an alibi with these. I am beyond flabbergasted.

In fact, it so threw me that I messed up, and couldn't get an alibi. According to the rules, you are supposed to freeze and put your non shooting hand up to call the RO so he can verify the alibi is legit. You are not supposed to touch the gun. I was so shocked I racked the action to see if somehow I didn't chamber a round. Dope!!! Had I left it alone it would have been the best possible conditions to shoot an alibi since it was the first round of the string. I wouldn't have had to throw out any shots.

Might as well switch to Thunderduds now...

 

[Old_Cop]

It happens.

 

[dmy]

To my surprise, the same thing happened to me recently. I bought three 100 round nose, lead standard velocity 2 years ago and shot them out of a stock Buckmark last month. They were stored inside tge entire time. I had a total of 5 duds. All fired the second time I put them through. I clean my gun after every outing, including removal of the slide and recoil spring. I have had good luck with CCI std velocity in the past, but it has been 5 - 8 years since I last shot them.

 

[Scharfschuetzer]

It happens. In over 5 decades of shooting, I can only recall three misfires. Two of those were LC M118 match ammo in the 7.62 NATO in the M14 and the third was a 45 ACP in my 1911 match pistol.

I'd keep on using your chosen ammo for match shooting and not worry too much about it. If you get a production lot of ammo that does misfire, just use it for practice.

Now older surplus military ammo is a different story, but that really doesn't count due to the age of most of it. When those rounds misfire or hang fire it's a good flinch check.

 

[Tubbsy]

I've had some issues out of cci stanfard velocity in the past year or so.... have had several duds in multiple firearms, one of which is a revolver.... so no mag issue... no issues with any of thier other offerings

 

[Fishinfool]

I don't think I have shot any make of .22 rimfire ammo with any regularity that hasn't had at least one dud in the bunch. Some are better than others (CCI, Ely), but it happens. The fact you have shot bullseye so long with CCI without a single issue is great, speaks volumes about CCI reliability, but me thinks you have been on borrowed time...

Larry

 

[Patrick L]

Larry,

Sadly I think you nailed it.

Oh well, hopefully I'll go another 25 before it happens again...

 

[BE Mike]

It would be interesting to pull the bullet and see if it was lack of powder or primer that caused the dud. I have seen some recent complaints of CCI SV ammo. I would also check the firing pin strike and see if it looks good. It could be an indication of a problem with your firing pin or other issue with the gun.

 

[gwpercle]

It Happens ... Sorry !
And the "Tooth Fairy" ... may be a large guy who looks like Dwayne Johnson !!!!
Gary

 

[vytoland]

commercials like to use the word "perfect" in their advertising......it just aint so.....

 

[VaTom]

Don't ever recall a dud in CCI ammo. But never say never!

 

[Jeffrey47]

My fail to fire with CCI has been very rare until recently. I have had 3 mis-fires out of one brick in the last two weeks.

 

[S&WIowegan]

I participate in a number of shooting contests where 22 LR ammo is used(not Bullseye comp). Many in the shooting group are devout users of CCI Standard Velocity. The people involved in these gun games would agree that CCI Standard quality has declined, but duds are still very few. We have also noticed inconsistency, i.e. one cartridge in a string sounds/feels weak and another seems hotter than normal.

I had a poor cartridge last night during a string using Federal Champion 36gr. JHP. The round fired but recoil was too weak to eject the brass clear of my S&W Victory semi-auto.

This kind of failure is more common currently than it was 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

 

[Patrick L]

BEMike,

I did pull the bullet, and there was the infamous "horseshoe" of primer compound. My FP hit was right where the bare spot was!

Stuff happens...

 

[armorer951]

I would send CCI the lot number. They might send you a replacement for the entire lot.

CCI Ammunition - Home

 

[robertrwalsh]

Excrement occurs. If you make a couple of zillion of something every year one or two will be bad.

 

[GypsmJim]

I never had a dud with anything CCI, but I don't think I ever bought a box of Thunderduds that DIDN'T have a few duds out of 500. My first experience was about 20 years ago, so I swore I'd never buy any more. Then, there was a sale about 10 years ago so I bought another brick and had the same problem, so I swore off of them again. Then, I bought a few boxes of unprimed 38 brass and half the caces split when I seated the bullets. From then on I WILL NOT buy ANYTHING that says Remington on the package.

On another note, during the recent .22 shortage I bought sevaral bricks of Winchesters and each brick had several primed cases (but no powder or bullet). Also, a count showed 3 or 4 rounds less than the expected quantity. Of course I called Winchester with the lot number, etc. and they wanted to send me a replacement. But, living in NY that ain't possible.

Federal all the way. Just this morning at the range I tried out a new .22 revolver using several flavors of ammo. Federal Valu Pack 525's gave the best accuracy, as usual.

 

[Eddietruett]

Had 2 duds and a hang fire out of the same box of CCI 22 mag last week. The 2 duds shot the 2nd time. 3rd bad one was a hang fire, so that’s it with that box

 

[Kurusu]

This isn't exactly Smith and Wesson related since I was shooting my Ruger MK II, but this seems to be the best place for this.

In the Monday Night Bullseye League I had a dud round of CCI Standard Velocity tonight! Next I suppose you'll tell me there's no Santa Claus.

In over 25 years of using these for NRA Bullseye, I have NEVER EVER EVER had a dud. This is the one and only rimfire ammo I can say that about. That's the very reason I settled on these so many years ago. I've NEVER needed an alibi with these. I am beyond flabbergasted.

In fact, it so threw me that I messed up, and couldn't get an alibi. According to the rules, you are supposed to freeze and put your non shooting hand up to call the RO so he can verify the alibi is legit. You are not supposed to touch the gun. I was so shocked I racked the action to see if somehow I didn't chamber a round. Dope!!! Had I left it alone it would have been the best possible conditions to shoot an alibi since it was the first round of the string. I wouldn't have had to throw out any shots.

Might as well switch to Thunderduds now...

Just consider yourself very lucky(on having just one dud). And move on.

 

[ggibson511960]

How Could They Improve??

Shoot .22 rimfire long enough and you will encounter one of these primerless dud rounds. It's been years since I saw it, but CCI once opened their production line for one of those "How It's Made" documentaries. I recall the priming process was an incredibly crude affair with a technician using a multi-tipped injection fixture to simultaneously apply priming compound to a square array of .22 cases. Surely they've figured out how to automate it by now, but maybe not. More to the point, how would a quality control operation work to verify that there is both priming compound and powder in a case with a seated bullet. With such low incidence of duds, it doesn't seem that pulling finished rounds at random and either shooting or disassembling would be likely to catch bad rounds. Does anybody know how they prime .22's these days, or better yet how they do in-process quality control?