I let an "expert" look at my 4006

[nachogrande]

QUITE THE DISCREPANCY IN THE ROUND COUNT.

I've been around guns long enough to know what I'm buying and what to look for.



So apparently being a PD trade in its been shot tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rounds.

"Those little nicks in the ejection port are from ejected casings and don't show up until around 100,000 rounds."

I imagine it's seen a max of maybe 500 rounds.

100,000 Rounds would be 274 rounds every day for a year. "SEVERAL" hundredS of thousands"??? Was it cherry red &
way to hot to touch? AS IF a LEO had the time, or would want to put a "duty" gun through that kind of mileage. If you indeed "have been around guns long enough WHY LISTEN?, or let it bother you. You should know by now that THERE'S NO WHINING IN BUYING USED GUNS. Water off a ducks back. The older you get, the less things surprise you. That was a good example though.

 

[CBus660R]

Generally he's just a schmuck. But I was really in no mood to argue so I just let him show me stuff and acted like I was listening to his so called advice.

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It took me until I was almost 40 to realize life is so much simpler when you let schmucks like that ramble on without trying to correct them. It also prevents you from coming off as a schmuck (even if you are right, when you battle it out you become one of them), so it's a win-win!

 

[paplinker]

About 50% of what I collect are old Bullseye guns from the 30s.

Most have King enhancements and action work so I get the impression that they were likely owned by moderate to serious shooters who competed and practiced regularly.

I shoot all of them but one and the bores look great 80+ years later.

I do stick to lead nose rounds.

 

[M29since14]

...I guess we'll never know how some "experts" come to draw the conclusions they draw.

They've become enamored with the sound of their own voice and can't bring themselves to just shut up and listen. There is no drawing of any conclusions. You're giving them too much credit.

 

[jlrhiner]

Kyle, Kyle Kyle, your going to have to man up and admit your not very good at this "gun"thing. Just mark it down to experience and move on.

Now, what to do with that ratty 4006? Well, I have become an Authorized S&W disposal site. Send it to me and I'll properly dispose of it and you can put it completely behind you!

Hey! What are friends for?!?

 

[crazyphil]

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool,
than to speak and remove all doubt." Abe Lincoln
Very appropriate quote for gun "experts".

 

[sheepdawg]

EXPERT......

An ex is a has been, a spert is a drip under pressure.

I shoot old Mausers, they usually draw a crowd. One of the good things about getting older is my patience with the experts, black plastic fans and know it alls that frequent ranges. I'm more than happy to answer questions and when the experts chime in I'll just grin. Naysayers are invited to look through my spotting scope.

 

[keith44spl]

Yeah, they're everywhere now'n'days.............

To hear the ex-pert tell it, he's forgot more on
any subject that anyone else has ever known.

And when pressed on it....Will readily admit, to having taught the Hoot Owl how to hoot.

.

 

[zzzippper]

I gave you a "like" just because I feel your pain. I don't know why anyone feels the need to trash talk someone else's gun. To me that is like trashing a guy's wife, kids, or dog.

 

[PR24]

Having worked in a gun shop prior to being a police officer, I'm painfully aware of this type of DOOFUS! 'A keyboard commando & guncounter Einstein'. Actually, I get a kick out of going to that same store now 20+ years later & just standing back listening to these morons espouse their underwhelmingly noxious type of foolish expertise. Especially when they wanna talk about what the cops do, what the cops carry, blah blah blah. Then the involuntary eye rolling begins...

Of course the staff @ the store know me & they are amused as I react usually silently to the abject display of idiot yammering.

You can't make this **** up! But it's funny....

 

[Kyle M.mi]

I hear a lot of this stuff in gun stores as well, even from employees unfortunately. I was in a local shop browsing a few weeks ago and overheard an employee telling a guy there was no legal way he could buy a "silencer". But that he could in fact make his own and that was perfectly legal.

I sure hope he did his homework before he went home and started a new project.

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[Arik]

I hear a lot of this stuff in gun stores as well, even from employees unfortunately. I was in a local shop browsing a few weeks ago and overheard an employee telling a guy there was no legal way he could buy a "silencer". But that he could in fact make his own and that was perfectly legal.

I sure hope he did his homework before he went home and started a new project.

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After hearing stories like this plus others I'm just glad none of my local gun stores are like this. If they don't know they'll say so. But all the stores are large enough that someone will know

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[Kyle M.mi]

After hearing stories like this plus others I'm just glad none of my local gun stores are like this. If they don't know they'll say so. But all the stores are large enough that someone will know

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Oh I'm certain someone there knew, I knew. But it wasn't my place to interject. I'm sure I'd have just been told I was wrong and ask to leave.

The other one that gets me is how I can buy from 5 different shops and they'll have 5 different ways that they want the 4473 filled out. Someone's got to be doing it wrong.

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[Jim NNN]

As a general rule, the police surplus guns I've owned have been better functioning guns than the used guns that weren't surplus. I don't believe I've ever had a police surplus gun that's malfunctioned even once. The current surplus guns I own are a S&W M&P .40, a S&W model 10, and a Beretta 92. All work like a charm, despite whatever carry wear they might have. Worn out? Not much.

 

[Arik]

As a general rule, the police surplus guns I've owned have been better functioning guns than the used guns that weren't surplus. I don't believe I've ever had a police surplus gun that's malfunctioned even once. The current surplus guns I own are a S&W M&P .40, a S&W model 10, and a Beretta 92. All work like a charm, despite whatever carry wear they might have. Worn out? Not much.

Mirrors my experience

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[sousana]

I've bought many many many police trade in weapons, for the most part, 95%, the external appearance was near factory, the other 5% were looking like they survived through the French Revolution, but the ONE thing they shared in common, They had all seen very little use.

The best of the lot? A CPD Beretta 92FS, I mean, this beast looked like it has served the US Military since the American Revolution, but it hadn't been fired maybe more than 300 rounds total. And accuracy you ask? Go ahead, Ask me. Let me tell you, at 31ft using standard Winchester 9mm Nato rounds, it was shooting 2.462" groups. Using TZZ match grade ball that dropped to 2.013" groups.

 

[tlawler]

Ironically, I just saw Paul Harrell's video on "gun experts" for the first time yesterday...hilarious in Paul's usual deadpan manner.

 

[apollo99]

I'm no expert , but the only time most cops shoot their weapons is for the 50 rounds at the target twice a year on qualification day. Even if you got in a shootout twice a year for 20 years (highly unlikely),unless you're Rambo, maybe add another 200 rounds career wise. I think your 4006 will be just fine.

 

[Bosquebass]

I've never bought a police trade gun that was worn out. Dirty and with holster wear? Sure enough. But every one was as good as new mechanically.

 

[Jeppo]

Be thankful you didn't show him your wife.