I took the CCDW class Sat!!!!!!!

[Medevack]

Well guys I went Saturday and got my CCDW Certificate, the class was 12 hours long to be exact 8 was classroom and 4 were firing range. I have to say it was WELL WORTH IT!!!! I encourage anyone to go thru the class even if you are not going to conceal a weapon is worth it. The instructor is a former SWAT Sniper member and he was great a lot of info, tons of knowledge and precise training, I was surprise to see the different ages in the classroom there was a granny I would guess in her late 70s and she was packing Colt 1911... NICE!!. Some who never handle a handgun did great too. plus we all got an awesome deal joining the shooting range....

 

[Big Foot]

Kudos.....It does depend on which instructor you happen to acquire. BTW, which state are you from? I obtained mine in New Mexico and it was a 15 hr. course spread over two dates....

 

[Medevack]

Kudos.....It does depend on which instructor you happen to acquire. BTW, which state are you from? I obtained mine in New Mexico and it was a 15 hr. course spread over two dates....

Im in NC and we didnt take long breaks and a 30 min lunch.....lol maybe thats why it took us 12 hrs to complete and we had 6 students in the class too.

 

[leejack]

How do you spell sigma?

S= Super
I= Ingenious
G= Great
M= Marvelous
A= Amazing

LOL! Just having some fun! Congrats on the CCW class!

 

[Roy W.]

Better Than Florida

I'm ashamed at the State of Florida for not having more control over CCW classes. Particulary since many states honor Florida permits. Many classes are three hours long, and "range time" is 2-3 rounds fired into a bucket of sand outside the classroom door. Typical of gun show classes.

 

[Tackelbarry]

That is to bad Roy W.,
In the end it is only the client that loses, and usually in more than one way. I am also in N.C. and our companies CCH classes, that we have taught since the N.C. CCH inception in 1995, have always been a minimum of 11 hrs. long, but we only offer private and semi-private instruction. We also incorporate many tactics that we used in law enforcement such as; plus one, threat assessment, observation drills, color codes, large muscle movement drills, as well as a myriad of other info. Our company philosophy is: "Survival through observation, creating distance, and as a last resort, being defensively aggressive to stop the threat".
You are correct, there are to many companies that are only interested in selling certificates instead of training. Hopefully, it will catch up to them (the companies) and not their unknowing clients. Stay safe and check six.

Scott Jens
Check Six Training LLC
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C.H.P.D. (ret.)

 

[Medevack]

Hey Scott im glad NC requires a long class and as detailed as it is, the class was awesome and im glad it was 12 hrs.... i learned ALOT!!!!!!!!!

http://proshotsrange.com/

 

[CajunBass]

Personally I'm glad that Virginia doesn't require any shooting at all. A basic NRA gun safety course, or a hunter safety course, are all you really need. There are other things accepted of course, but those two are all you NEED.

Anybody who wants more of course is welcome to take it.

 

[blujax01]

Ohio requires 12 hours. Our range offers it split into three 4 hour evenings, two 6 hour weekend days or one 12 hour Sunday. The wife and I opted for the two day course.
This ain't going to make me popular around here but I think everyone should be required to take a safety course prior to being able to purchase. The same idea as being able to buy and license a car. It won't get rid of the idiots but it may reduce their numbers.
There, I said it!

 

[Doc Watson]

I am a Kentucky Instructor, ours is 8 hours of classroom, followed by going to the range, and it takes as long as needed. two hours is legal provided by the state training academy attorneys.

 

[Medevack]

Ohio requires 12 hours. Our range offers it split into three 4 hour evenings, two 6 hour weekend days or one 12 hour Sunday. The wife and I opted for the two day course.
This ain't going to make me popular around here but I think everyone should be required to take a safety course prior to being able to purchase. The same idea as being able to buy and license a car. It won't get rid of the idiots but it may reduce their numbers.
There, I said it!

I agree with you 110% alot of idiots are not familiar with their own handguns and thats when accidents happen all they know is what they see on TV, and alot dont know the law and think they can carry a handgun anytime, anywhere until they get arrested then the first thing that say " noone told me" lol IMO i think it should be a must...

 

[OKFC05]

As an NRA and CHL instructor I am a HUGE advocate of training.
That said, I am STRONGLY opposed to Government-mandated qualifications for owning a gun. If you think that is such a great idea, go live in New York City for awhile and see how bad Nanny laws can get.

Personal responsibility cannot be mandated by government.
Ironically, the states with the least mandated training requirements also have the LOWEST rate of CHL violations. Take Utah, for example.

 

[hobby-gunsmith]

CWP Classes

I'm ashamed at the State of Florida for not having more control over CCW classes. Particulary since many states honor Florida permits. Many classes are three hours long, and "range time" is 2-3 rounds fired into a bucket of sand outside the classroom door. Typical of gun show classes.

As an NRA Instructor and Law enforcement Instructor, I teach the Certified NRA First Steps intro to Pistol Course which is ( 3 hours) and the Basic Pistol Course which is 8 hours. The Florida minimum standards is at least one round discharged from your gun on the range. My standards, the intro to pistol, the student will fire 25 to 50 rounds on the range to at least familiarize them with the gun they will carry. The applicant should be able to safely load, unload and hit the target with that course. The next progressive course would be the eight hourse course on Basic Pistol. Each step is a progression on executing a hit and the proper fundamental of shooting. the so called $45 to $55 courses at the gun shows and some of the local ranges is a joke. They take your money and the student is less knowledgable when it comes to proper safety and handling of his or her gun. I may charge more but the experience and knowledge that I instill to the applicants is of the latest technique and fundamentals. You know the old saying, "You get what you pay for".
Nick

 

[Medevack]

As an NRA and CHL instructor I am a HUGE advocate of training.
That said, I am STRONGLY opposed to Government-mandated qualifications for owning a gun. If you think that is such a great idea, go live in New York City for awhile and see how bad Nanny laws can get.

Personal responsibility cannot be mandated by government.
Ironically, the states with the least mandated training requirements also have the LOWEST rate of CHL violations. Take Utah, for example.

lol True but we are talking about caring a concealed hand gun anyone can own and buy a gun but being armed out in public is where we strongly suggest the training, OH yeah!!! also NYC is not that bad i grew up in the SOUTH BRONX....now that "was" "is" and "will" be bad....

 

[hybridsquirrel]

Mine took 2 hours....I've seen some that take 12+ and cost three times as much as what I paid for mine (NRA cost was 100 bucks). Granted, it was a class designed for people who simply had to renew their permit, and not for first time carriers who get taught "philosophy of carrying" in the regular length ones.

 

[PDL]

OK, I'll satisfy the guy who didn't think he'd be popular. Last time I looked driving a car wasn't anywhere in the Constitution.

And what makes you folks think that just because someone hasn't taken a 'course' from some instructor that they're ignorant of firearms. Some of us have been thru more than enough training thru time, without the blessing, guidance, and cost of some bureaucratic BS. All of which, infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. Just like the poll tax, or property owner requirement to vote or any number of other govenment abuses.

While I do think people should know the right way to handle a firearm. I don't need the government to tell me how much or what kind I need.

 

[cshoff]

Ohio requires 12 hours. Our range offers it split into three 4 hour evenings, two 6 hour weekend days or one 12 hour Sunday. The wife and I opted for the two day course.
This ain't going to make me popular around here but I think everyone should be required to take a safety course prior to being able to purchase. The same idea as being able to buy and license a car. It won't get rid of the idiots but it may reduce their numbers.
There, I said it!

Driving is a privilege, keeping and bearing arms is NOT. If driving was a inalienable right, codified and forever protected by it's own amendment in our Bill of Rights, then I dare say that more than a few of us would be against any kind of infringements on it whatsoever.

Missouri requires a minimum of 8 hours training for those who want to apply for a CCW endorsement. No training at all is required for open carry. The state has mandated the required CCW course curriculum that we must teach. It includes:

Handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on the firing range and while carrying the firearm; a physical demonstration performed by the applicant that demonstrated his or her ability to safely load and unload a revolver and a semiautomatic pistol and demonstrated his or her marksmanship with both; the basic principles of marksmanship; care and cleaning of concealable firearms; safe storage of firearms at home; the requirements of the state of Missouri for obtaining a certificate of qualification for a concealed carry endorsement from the sheriff of the individual's county of residence and a concealed carry endorsement issued by the department of revenue; the laws relating to firearms as prescribed in chapter 571 of the revised statutes of Missouri; the laws relating to the justifiable use of force as prescribed in chapter 563; a live firing exercise of sufficient duration for each applicant to fire a handgun, from a standing position or its equivalent, a minimum of fifty rounds at a distance of seven yards from a B-27 silhouette target or an equivalent target; and a live fire test administered to the applicant while the instructor was present of twenty rounds from a standing position or its equivalent at a distance from a B-27 silhouette target, or an equivalent target, of seven yards.

The students must place at least 15 out of the 20 rounds in the silhouette portion of the target during the live-fire test in order to qualify.

Our course usually takes us about 8.5 - 9 hours to complete, depending on the number of students we have and what their skill level is. It's a very informative class, if I do say so myself.

 

[blujax01]

I have no illusions that I can change anyone's mindset. And I seriously doubt that mine can be changed by anything I read here. Not the point and not my intent.
Interestingly enough, if I were to walk down the street in several states with a gun in plain sight there are no rules but the minute I put it in my pocket I have to complete several hours or days of training. Training most here agree is fitting and proper.
If gun owners agree that safety courses are fitting and proper, what's the beef? Is it "the government"? You do mean "our government" don't you? I've said too much and gone too far. I will retreat quietly and apologize for disturbing you all.

 

[Bill_inBouse]

your opinion is just as valid blujax. Some may not agree with it..oh well.
My learning came from 7 years of active duty, scoring "expert" with the M-14 and M-16 the entire time, and carried the old .38 at times. I know I shoot more than any LEO in our county, so I guess I'm saying, be comfortable with yourself and know your limitations.

Medevack, Congrats on your CCW, shoot and shoot often practice practice and practice.

Bill

 

[OKFC05]

lol True but we are talking about caring a concealed hand gun anyone can own and buy a gun but being armed out in public is where we strongly suggest the training, OH yeah!!! also NYC is not that bad i grew up in the SOUTH BRONX....now that "was" "is" and "will" be bad....

New York City residents who want to own a gun may soon be denied permits if they are litterbugs, if they are bad drivers, or if they have fallen behind on a few bills.

Bad Driver? In Debt? Proposed NYC Law Would Ban You From Owning a Gun - FoxNews.com