I want a S&W P365

[Rob613]

SW factory 8 round mag with a Magguts +2 kit, mine has been nothing but reliable.

If I didn't live in a restricted state I would own a P365 to take advantage of the 12 and 15 rounds mags.

Here's my Shield with the Magguts extension...

 

[Joe Reeser]

Contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation, why did you post?

He asked you a question you didn't bother to answer, so there's that.....

 

[rosewood]

I thought I saw S&Ws answer to the 365 in one of the recent Rifleman mags. Will have to dig it up. Maybe they haven't released it yet.

Rosewood

 

[rosewood]

Maybe it is the M&P9 sub compact??

 

[sparkyvega]

P365 for me. Works flawlessly, carries well, 10+ rounds. Great platform. If S&W does come up with a real competitor, I'd say they are too late to the game. SIG, Springfield, Kel-Tek, and even Gluck are already quite ensconced, and the CC market is quite saturated. Besides, what major improvements can be made to the P365 to entice buyers?

 

[hogblue]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

 

[Dave Lively]

Besides, what major improvements can be made to the P365 to entice buyers?

Magazines that don't cost $40+ would be nice.

But since I already have a P365 and enough magazines I cannot think of anything S&W could do to make me switch.

 

[Univibe]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

Nobody ever said they brought too much ammo to a firefight. Sold my Shield, bought 365. Gang or active shooter, you run out of ammo, you die.

 

[rosewood]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

Very true about the rounds fired. However, you must also consider than anyone shooting at you most likely has a high capacity firearm also. Even if I only need 3 rounds, I want to have more in my weapon than my opponent does.

Granted, this isn't Hollywood where you have a shootout around corners and under cars for 10 minutes and no one gets hit.

Rosewood

 

[malph]

Competition is good. I'd also like to see Smith get into the "stack and a half" carry gun market.

Smith sold tons of Shields and did very well for itself when the single-stack nine craze hit.

Guns like the P365, Hellcat and Glock 43x have to be eating into Shield sales.

Same goes for Walther and their PPS.

I don't think single-stack nines are going away just have snubby revolvers haven't. But Sig struck a vein with their P365 and is the hot item. I expect others like Smith and Walther to try to get some of that market share back.

 

[malph]

Sorry guys...I'm on a roll here. Competition in the carry gun niche has resulted in out-of-the-box carry guns getting better.

If you look at the P365, they are trying to compete on trigger quality, usable sights from the factory and shootability as well as size and capacity.

 

[dan323]

I had a Shield 1.0. Sold it for a p365. The p365 has more rounds capacity, easy to carry. Hated it. Didn't fit my hand like I wanted, didn't shoot it as good as a shield. Sold it. Bought a shield 2.0. Love it. I have 2 promag 10 round magazines for it for the range. Carry it 8 +1 all day. To each his own. I'll stick with the Shield.

 

[mysteryy]

I have shield 1.0, bought a p365, sold it a week later, now going to get a shield 2.0 and keep the 1.0 as a backup.

shield fits better in my hand, feels more like a gun. sig parts were crazy expensive, unavailable, and overall sig didnt seem to care.

i do wish the shield had an option or small redesign to fit 10+1. right now im using a magguts +1 spring to have 9+1. i also bought a magguts +2 extension but it makes the gun too big, i do some times carry that mag with the 10 rounds as a spare but the +2 makes it bigger than the 365 or comparable glocks. i was thinking of getting a glock 43x or 48 but already have tons of accessories for the shield.

i probably had 2,000 rounds through my 1.0. never missed a beat. will be testing the 2.0 with magguts extensively.

 

[cmdrken1]

I had a P365 and then the striker broke. Been back to carrying my 340 and 640 ever since.

 

[oldiegoldie]

have 2 of the P365 MS.....have a Vedder Pocket Locker for pocket carry, but i'm not sure i will ever carry one in my pocket. on my hip in a Wright Leather Predator holster they are a dream to carry. not much larger than a Body Guard....mine have been 100% reliable. i tried the Shield, but we never did bond.

 

[kbm6893]

Smith has to make a competitor for the 365. The only reason people but Shields at all now is the price difference between a new Shield and a new 365, but when you factor in the night sights that come on the Sig, that price difference shrinks. Not to mention many put in a new trigger in the Shield. The trigger on mine is fine for what it is.

I have a Shield 1.0 and like it alot, but I never carry it. My carry gun is a Ruger LC9S. For carry, it's ALL about the size and weight, and the Ruger is smaller and lighter than the Shield. The specs between the Ruger and the Sig are virtually identical. I've debated buying the Sig and maybe one day, but three more rounds than the Ruger? Spending over $500 for another carry gun for three rounds that in all likelihood I'll never need? Plus, the mags are stupid expensive for the Sig.

But if I didn't have the Ruger or the Shield, the Sig would be mine. Yeah, some early teething issues, but same with the lots of S&W products when they first came out. Bugs seem to be worked out of the Sig, but selling the Shield and Ruger would be a huge loss and I have holsters for both.

Would be nice if S&W redesigned a mag that would hold say 9 rounds but be same size as the 7 round shield mag and work with the Shield. The 9 round Ruger LC9S mag looks stupid and takes away from the whole point of the gun: concealability. I don't even like the 8 round mag for the Shield.

 

[ancient-one]

A Sig P320 Compact with night sights is not too bad, a little larger but has 15 rounds.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

If they made the shield with the amphibious safety like I have on my 1.0 M&P9 I'd be a happy camper for sure. That is my ONLY beef with the shield. Being a southpaw, the current safety just doesn't cut ot for me with my .45 shield but I like it anyway-great littke 45.
One day I will have undedicated funds in my pocket and come across a 365 at which time I will own one.
BTW why are 1.0 M&P 9's considered crappy?

 

[LCC]

Doubt that at this point Smith would spend the time and $$ developing a micro compact to go head to head with the 365.
As to capacity, Sig now offers a 15 round factory magazine for the P365.
As much as I like my manual safety 365 would like to see an after market safety lever that was bigger than the stock one, have big hands so would like more to swipe on the draw.
And think Sig should provide the Hogue Handall with the 365 as standard issue, it would cost them little, and makes a significant difference in grip control,

 

[oldiegoldie]

Doubt that at this point Smith would spend the time and $$ developing a micro compact to go head to head with the 365.
As to capacity, Sig now offers a 15 round factory magazine for the P365.
As much as I like my manual safety 365 would like to see an after market safety lever that was bigger than the stock one, have big hands so would like more to swipe on the draw.
And think Sig should provide the Hogue Handall with the 365 as standard issue, it would cost them little, and makes a significant difference in grip control,

i'm with you on an after market safety. at some point there will probably be one. H&K safeties are just about right for me.