I want a S&W P365

[sox]

Last P365 SAS dead trigger issues, over it. Can't wait to see what Smith counters with! Hurry already!

 

[murphydog]

S & W makes a small single stack grip module (Shield), and three heights of the large size module (sub- and Compact, and full size). What they have not committed to making is a double-stack Shield size module and a new magazine.

They probably will depending on their market research - how many 365s and Hellcats are being sold and whether they are taking away from S & W sales.

 

[Boxer9]

Its not like Sig is a bad company. Most big name gun mfgs are making great products. If it appeals to you, and it has a good reputation, and fits your hand, then buy it.

 

[Rammer Jammer]

It'd be a safe bet that companies like S&W and Ruger have their engineers working on their own versions of the 365. If Springfield Armory can do it, why not the big boys?

 

[jkf3356]

Get a SW Gen 2 9mm subcompact.

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[GeoJelly]

Not being too sharp , I haven't ever thought about a double-stack module and mag for the Shield. The DS module could be shorter & prolly more concealable than the current Shield. But, that would require them to invest some R&D money which is prolly in short supply everywhere now.

 

[seldon14]

Get a SW Gen 2 9mm subcompact.

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Larger in every direction, and heavier, not really comparable.

 

[Finch]

I love my 365 as does my wife with hers. I shot the Hellcat and do t care for it. I would like to see a Smith like 365 but for me to switch it would have to be a serious upgrade difference and I feel a lot are like me.

 

[otis24]

I like the feel of the P365. But some online reviews showed problems with broken trigger springs. Maybe the problems have been fixed. I won't purchase one until I am certain of that.

 

[hardluk1]

sox Di you send your pistol in with a list of issues free on sigs dime to be corrected or just complain ??

Early p365 had some issues , thats life . But early and be a beta tester !! OR are you to young to remember how crappy many 9mm M&P 1.0 shoot or that s&w dropped the 357sig do to many problems .

Current runs of P365's as in 2020 models seem to be issue free and my wifes edc is a may 2020 p365XL but only has about 640 rounds fired and another 1000 dry fires by me mostly , drives my wife nuts .

We have 3 m&p's , a 9c a core 9mm and a 40sw and they have all been apex'd to some degree mild to anything offered to make them good to go BUT now they great . no thanks to s&w . HA



Not like S&W has not had there own QC issues over the years so control your whinniness !! ANY NEW PRODUCTION firearms can have some growing pains along with the occasional problem to be found still so suck it up and deal with it . Whining oblt reflects on you .

 

[Telecaster]

The 9mm Shield's grip could stand to be a skosh thicker. If that ups the magazine to equal or more than the Hell365Cat, S&W wins.

 

[LVSteve]

I shot the Hellcat and do t care for it.

What didn't you like?

 

[sox]

sox Di you send your pistol in with a list of issues free on sigs dime to be corrected or just complain ??

Early p365 had some issues , thats life . But early and be a beta tester !! OR are you to young to remember how crappy many 9mm M&P 1.0 shoot or that s&w dropped the 357sig do to many problems .

Current runs of P365's as in 2020 models seem to be issue free and my wifes edc is a may 2020 p365XL but only has about 640 rounds fired and another 1000 dry fires by me mostly , drives my wife nuts .

We have 3 m&p's , a 9c a core 9mm and a 40sw and they have all been apex'd to some degree mild to anything offered to make them good to go BUT now they great . no thanks to s&w . HA



Not like S&W has not had there own QC issues over the years so control your whinniness !! ANY NEW PRODUCTION firearms can have some growing pains along with the occasional problem to be found still so suck it up and deal with it . Whining oblt reflects on you .

Contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation, why did you post?

 

[Boxer9]

If the Shield was slightly wider, S&W could fit a 15 rd mag in there. With the grip extension the Shield is about the same size as the Glock 48 which is 10 rounds. Shield Arms makes a magazine for the G48 that golds 15 (+1).
I actually hope Shield Arms makes a magazine for the current Shield that would get up to maybe 10 or so (+?) rounds.

 

[Boxer9]

If S&W does make something similar I hope they'll update their texture again. Maybe something laser cut that would be grippy but not scratchy. Something similar to Sigs texture would be awesome!

 

[sox]

I think S&W is the most likely candidate for the above reasons. I hope too they embrace the optic ready designs. Would like to see a new design actually, though I do like the Shields and new 2.0 updates.

 

[hardluk1]

sox all you did was whine ! Poor old sox I feel sorry for you , really . But if you really got be a M&P fan boy go see if you can rent and handle a the m&p 2.0 sub compact and I 'm sure you response will be - Its just way to big or heavy .

Yea the 2.0 sub compact is .70 longer do to a 3.6" barrel and longer sight radius , shorter in height with a flat bottom mag at 4.25" but a way heavier , not really , only 4.4oz heavier and the measure width at the points that matter for carry (discounting the levers ) is 1.18 at the widest point with a small insert . slides only 1.088 . Not bad for a easy to carry m&p with factory 10 or 12 round mags with a 17round + plus as back up .

But in the mean time you can wish and hope and then beta test again if a double stack shield ever comes out ! HA

 

[Electraclyde]

I had an early 9mm shield. Did not like it better than my 442pc. Sold it to a good friend who still has it. When the P365 came out, I bought one. Still have it and have not had any problems with it. I did recently add a thumb safety to it. I hardly ever carry the 442 since I got the 365.

 

[CH4]

Not much of a plastic gun fan, the ubiquitous Glock is the only brand I own, however, the 365 intrigues me.

One benefit I enjoy is the ability to run the same Glock 10-33 round mags in my G26.5 and 9mm AR.

 

[Loyaljeeper]

I have been waiting for years for a 10rd magazine for the Shield. Glock has sold a lot of Glock 43x.

 

[Rob613]

SW factory 8 round mag with a Magguts +2 kit, mine has been nothing but reliable.

If I didn't live in a restricted state I would own a P365 to take advantage of the 12 and 15 rounds mags.

Here's my Shield with the Magguts extension...

 

[Joe Reeser]

Contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation, why did you post?

He asked you a question you didn't bother to answer, so there's that.....

 

[rosewood]

I thought I saw S&Ws answer to the 365 in one of the recent Rifleman mags. Will have to dig it up. Maybe they haven't released it yet.

Rosewood

 

[rosewood]

Maybe it is the M&P9 sub compact??

 

[sparkyvega]

P365 for me. Works flawlessly, carries well, 10+ rounds. Great platform. If S&W does come up with a real competitor, I'd say they are too late to the game. SIG, Springfield, Kel-Tek, and even Gluck are already quite ensconced, and the CC market is quite saturated. Besides, what major improvements can be made to the P365 to entice buyers?

 

[hogblue]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

 

[Dave Lively]

Besides, what major improvements can be made to the P365 to entice buyers?

Magazines that don't cost $40+ would be nice.

But since I already have a P365 and enough magazines I cannot think of anything S&W could do to make me switch.

 

[Univibe]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

Nobody ever said they brought too much ammo to a firefight. Sold my Shield, bought 365. Gang or active shooter, you run out of ammo, you die.

 

[rosewood]

Forty three years ago when I started in law enforcement I was issued a model 10 HB and a six round loop belt cartridge carrier for a reload.

Now everyone needs a gazillion rounds. Three rounds and more than likely your gunfight if you're ever in one is over.

Very true about the rounds fired. However, you must also consider than anyone shooting at you most likely has a high capacity firearm also. Even if I only need 3 rounds, I want to have more in my weapon than my opponent does.

Granted, this isn't Hollywood where you have a shootout around corners and under cars for 10 minutes and no one gets hit.

Rosewood

 

[malph]

Competition is good. I'd also like to see Smith get into the "stack and a half" carry gun market.

Smith sold tons of Shields and did very well for itself when the single-stack nine craze hit.

Guns like the P365, Hellcat and Glock 43x have to be eating into Shield sales.

Same goes for Walther and their PPS.

I don't think single-stack nines are going away just have snubby revolvers haven't. But Sig struck a vein with their P365 and is the hot item. I expect others like Smith and Walther to try to get some of that market share back.