ID's for flying -- TSA

[Cal44]

When I used to fly every week for work, I usually carried my passport in my suitcase just in case I lost my wallet.

That way I could still get on a flight home and not get stuck somewhere.

Well, just recently I got a non-resident CCW license from Utah. It has my picture and home address on it.

I wonder if TSA would accept it as an alternative to a driver's license?

It's a government issued picture ID, so you would think they would accept it.

But what would they do if you give them a CCW license as an ID?

- Pass you right through?
- Knock you face down on the floor and handcuff you?
- Call the swat team?
- Just shoot you and be done with it?

What are the rules for a TSA acceptable ID for flying?

 

[Harkrader]

TSA is MOST humorless about ANYthing gun-ish.
They've stopped people from boarding who were wearing a SHIRT with a PICTURE of a gun on it.
They have stopped women with one done in sequins on their purse.
Cuff links? Tie tack? You ain't gettin' on.
I'd be very concerned that TSA would treat your CCW permit as an overt threat.
If you do it, let us know how it turned out. Oh, and, sorry, but I can't help you with bail.

 

[RobzGuns]

Ya know... Someone told me the most silly thing the other day. They said one could use a Smart Phone to call and actually TALK to another person. As IF!!!.
(Sorry... Couldn't resist)
If your local Airport has an extension for their TSA office, you COULD call and ask them.

 

[Cal44]

Ya know... Someone told me the most silly thing the other day. They said one could use a Smart Phone to call and actually TALK to another person. As IF!!!.
(Sorry... Couldn't resist)
If your local Airport has an extension for their TSA office, you COULD call and ask them.

I haven't figured out how to make a phone call on my smart phone.

Are you sure it will do that?

 

[The Big D]

Thirteen (13) letters and two (2) spaces entered into 'Search' immediately found this:

Acceptable IDs | Transportation Security Administration

There ya go!

Be safe.

When I used to fly every week for work, I usually carried my passport in my suitcase just in case I lost my wallet.

That way I could still get on a flight home and not get stuck somewhere.

Well, just recently I got a non-resident CCW license from Utah. It has my picture and home address on it.

I wonder if TSA would accept it as an alternative to a driver's license?

It's a government issued picture ID, so you would think they would accept it.

But what would they do if you give them a CCW license as an ID?

- Pass you right through?
- Knock you face down on the floor and handcuff you?
- Call the swat team?
- Just shoot you and be done with it?

What are the rules for a TSA acceptable ID for flying?

 

[Cal44]

Thanks.

That answers it.

Sorry to bother everyone.

 

[b_san]

Thanks.

That answers is.

Sorry to bother everyone.

Note: a weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification.

I find it hilarious that they actually have that at the bottom of the page...

 

[gwpercle]

I'm glad they did! Now we know the answer to that question...no if's , and's or but's.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

You are a braver man than me to put your passport is your suitcase.
Have the airlines ever lost my luggage?
Did the bear poop in the woods?
Ever I ever lost my wallet?
Ok, except for that one time it slipped out in an outhouse in Utah, hell no!
I am extra careful in outhouses, especially in Utah!

 

[Lee Jones]

Not funny, if you thank about it.

So, a concealed carry permit with photo, issued by a US state is not accepted, but a passport issued by an Islamic nation is.
Proves my argument that the bureaucrats are one of the big things wrong with our government.

Lee Jones(Celtgun)

 

[varmint243]

To be fair to the TSA I have flown twice with a checked handgun.
It was a non-issue with the TSA.
I looked up the rules and made sure I followed them to the letter.
The baggage check person was good on one end and ok, but wonky on the other.

I flew all over the world for a couple years carrying on A Rhode and Schwartz FSH 3-13 spectrum analyzer with VSWR bridge, power sensor, calibration standards, and various cables packed in a four gun pistol case and didn't get hassled by TSA or the equivalent authority in other countries.

TSA in the US is really not so bad
seems to me 100% pat down was the norm most other places I went

 

[FlyFish]

Some years back, thinking that any government-issued photo ID would be OK, and having no idea that a "weapon permit" was specifically called out as unacceptable, I tried to use my Massachusetts (at the time - thankfully no longer) LTC to board a flight at Logan Airport. The TSA didn't react in any way, other than to simply ask me for my driver's license.

 

[FPrice]

I can't speak for the TSA but last week I went to Westover ARB to get new IDs for myself and my son. While I was waiting I noticed a poster on the wall about acceptable forms of ID for a military ID application. Under he primary acceptable IDs they showed a picture of a Mass LTC.

 

[Bill_inBouse]

And not to worry if you're an illegal, you can fly with your NOTICE TO APPEAR. No other ID required!

 

[Squarebutt]

Ever I ever lost my wallet?
Ok, except for that one time it slipped out in an outhouse in Utah, hell no!
I am extra careful in outhouses, especially in Utah!

It's not lost if you know exactly where it is.

 

[The Big D]

Amazing bad luck!

Frankly, I find it simply unbelieveable that so many folks have had their luggage lost, bags stolen, and have been otherwise victimized by TSA and the airlines.

I hazard a guess I fly far more than most folks...and have done so for many years.

I counted 'em up...at least fifty-nine (59) airports in the US of A have seen me, in person, and thirty-four (34) of them have been in post-9/11 travels. (There is some overlap in those numbers...meaning some have seen me pre- and post- 9/11 And some have seen me scores of times.)

Never, ever, ever, ever have I had anything stolen and there have been only two (2) instances when my bag did not arrive with me. Only one (1) time was that with a handgun in my bag. And more than 90% of my travels are with a gun in my checked luggage.

Either some people have reallllly bad luck...or some people are making up stuff.

Be safe.

 

[Jiman]

Well if you do fly that much and you check your luggage just as regularly, I would say you are lucky.

There are and have been many notable 'theft rings' just in our area. BWI arrested many of it's airport employees last year. At DCA there have been continued thefts from baggage claim by groups that coordinate thefts, pass-ons, and vehicle pick-ups for years.

But across our country almost every large airport has baggage theft issues....LAX, MIA, ATL, ORD, JFK, LGA, PHL, etc....

Statistically you're right regarding the relatively small probability of theft or loss when compared to the staggering amount of baggage that gets processed through the system everyday, but it certainly doesn't mean it's not happening or isn't a problem.

How often do you leave the house every day? Have you ever gotten robbed at gunpoint, house broken into, car jacked, identity theft, etc...most never have, but for those who it did happen, just like a stolen bag....surely, are not 'making up stuff'

 

[LennyLames]

I started using my Utah Concealed Firearm Permit at TSA checkpoints back around the mid-2000s. It had the requisite features for airport security "government issued photo ID" such as photograph, holographic image that they check with their ultraviolet light, expiration date, etc.

Even then, acceptance was inconsistent even at the same airport. On one trip, a TSA agent allowed it, but asked jokingly, "You're not carrying, are you?" He explained that some people do forget that they are carrying. On another trip a few days later, another agent would insist on another ID such as a driver's license. Surprisingly, the Utah permit always got me through at places that have strict gun laws, such as the "NY metro" airports (LGA, JFK, EWR) in the states of NY & NJ, or LAX in CA.

If there was any hesitation, I would explain that such a permit required fingerprinting and background check, while anyone, even a convicted felon, could acquire a driver's license. If that still didn't work, I'd ask for the supervisor. Such tactics worked about half the time.

However, the Utah CCW permit has not been accepted at any airport since roughly 2 years ago. As a link above informs us, "Note: a weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification." I still try occasionally but it doesn't work anymore and the agent simply asks for an acceptable form of ID.

Is commercial flying made safer by not accepting a "weapon permit?" I would argue that it isn't, but I'm not familiar with all the various weapon permits. There may be some states that simply stamp a signature, glue on a photo, and let the permit holder laminate it himself, but Utah is not one of those. There may be some anti-gun policy involved here, or the reason could be as innocuous as the inconsistent standards in issuing weapon permits.

Also note that several of the 9/11 terrorists had driver's licenses from AZ, CA, FL, and state ID cards from FL, VA, MD. Obviously, I never mention "terrorist" to any TSA agent. Even today, anyone could walk across our porous border and obtain a driver's license from certain states.

 

[Jiman]

I'd agree it's not made any safer per se, but it allows the TSA screeners to 'learn' a much fewer amount of IDs...which could indirectly make a difference.

TSA has really high attrition. It's hard to keep anyone for any length of time. They don't get paid much and they're also pretty much everyone's target for the frustration of the airline system...whether it's really TSAs fault or not. Go figure why most people can't stay very long. I know I wouldn't want that job.

My point is the folks that end up getting hired as line officers aren't always the top shelf guys/girls. So the goal is to keep things simple and easily trainable for new hires. Recognizing all the different kinds of carry permits on top of all the other IDs just isn't worth the time, effort and energy.

Remember the story about the screener out west that didn't recognize a Washington DC permit? That's what I'm talkin' about.

 

[FloridaFlier]

So there are acceptable and unacceptable forms of i.d. for airline travel, and for that matter, to buy a beer or tube of glue, but anybody can vote in state and federal elections with no i.d.?

Where are you now, Joe DiMaggio?