If limited to 10 rounds, what do you carry?

[coachray]

Same as always. Sig P365.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Don't know why; but this thread made me think about my Dad a 39year police officer. In those 39 years he carried one of 3 guns..... a 1939 6" Colt New Service in .357 magnum worked over and with adjustable sights by Kings, a 4" M&P he got in 1946 when he got back from the South Pacific and a 1950s Colt Detective Special. Granted he retired before the Wonder-nine years but those guns were almost an extension of him..... he was on the Dept. Pistol Team shooting "Master" using the Colt NS as his centerfire pistol.

I always wondered why he didn't "upgrade" to a newer Smith a Model 27,28 or even a Model 19..... when I asked, his answer "Why"

Now as I look back I switched guns a good bit back in the late 70s and 80s.... but today as I posted earlier in this thread I'm still carrying the guns,in the same holsters I "settled" on in the late 80s early 90s......3rd Gen Smiths, Sig P series and Beretta 92s Compacts and Centurions.

When younger guys I shoot with ask me why I don't get smaller lighter guns like the Smith M&P or Sig 365...... I answer "Why"?"

Maybe having more than 10 rounds in the gun can be "comforting" but I'm fine with my 3913 at 7 or 8+1 or even my 3" 65 or 66...... but there's a reason God gave us speedloaders and mag pouches ...... after 40+ years of shooting handguns including PPC,USPSA and IDPA and thousands of hours of practice.....I can draw, aim, fire and reload without much, if any, conscious thought.....my focus is on the situation around me.

I didn't really think about how much muscle memory I'd developed over the years until I did some Computer Simulation training with the local Police Dept two years ago. After running some drills, while watching the next guy....... the Chief came over and whispered to me "You've been doing this for awhile!"

So; some advice, worth what you're paying for it .... Settle on the equipment that works for you and your lifestyle.... then Practice,Practice Practice..................

 

[TTSH]

I also can't see continuing to carry the exact same firearm with reduced capacity magazines when I can carry something smaller or with larger caliber bullets.

I hear that a lot... i.e., the goal of maximizing your state-allowed firepower in the smallest carry package available. That's why the P365 is so popular here in moonbat Massachusetts. It certainly makes more sense than, say, an M&P9 holding a 10-round crippled magazine instead of its intended 17-round magazine.

Same idea for a .40 or a .45 if your goal is the same. Carrying a partially empty gun in whatever caliber doesn't make a lot of sense to some people.

But again, those wanting a higher capacity handgun (>10+1 rounds) can still do pre-ban magazines in my moonbat state, which explains the popularity of the Glock offerings and why old, used pre-ban magazines for Glocks cost crazy amounts of money.

 

[ContinentalOp]

Have never considered "high capacity" in choosing a carry gun. How a gun points and how comfortable it is to carry is what is important to me.

I switched my EDC from a 642 to a PX4 Compact a couple of years ago, and capacity was probably down at the bottom of the list of reasons why. The PX4 was easier to shoot well and it's light and compact enough to be easily carried. I went from being able to shoot 50-75 rounds per range session with my 642 because of pain and discomfort to shooting as many rounds as I wanted with the PX4. It feels good in the hand and points well. When I draw and bring the gun up, the sights are on target. I can do that with my 642, Beretta 92FS, and Govt Model 1911, but the PX4 hits that sweet spot of size and weight that balances shootability with carry-ability/concealability for me.

 

[Miami_JBT]

10rds or less.... Hmmmm

I have over 100 revolvers. So I have ample choices like my factory DAO 3" Model 65 or a 342Ti or a Model 544 or a M625. Colt Python or SF-VI or Ruger Speed Six, etc, etc, etc.. The sky's the limit with them.

Automatics would the following.

My 1911s, I have a gaggle of 'em in .45 ACP. Plus a 9mm SA EMP and even a Browning .380 1911.
Star PD .45
BHP .40
My Smith 645,745, 4506-1, and three 4566s.
My Smith 3913, 4013TSW, 909, 4040PD.
Glock 26/27/29/30/36/42/43
Ruger P90/P345
Sig P239 and P230
Walther PP and PPK
FN 1910 and FN Model 1922
Ruger LCP or LC9s
Kel-Tec P32 or Seecamp LWS32
Beretta PX4 Storm SD
Colt Pony Pocketlite and Colt M1903

Plus I still have 10rd mags for my Beretta 92/96 guns, full size GLOCKs, etc... I lived through the Clinton AWB and while the mags suck, they still are good mags for training so when the ban ended. I never got rid of them.

 

[Maddog 521]

I've carried a J frame for a long time and don't even think about the 5 rounds. Lately I've been carrying a Springfield XDs 45 with a 7 round mag and one in the chamber. It works for me.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Pardon my boldness, kind sir. May I interject?

Notice to newbies: the Second Amendment gives me 2 rights: the right to keep, and, bear arms. Because of those rights, I don't need a government "permit" to carry a gun. Neither do you.



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SCOTUS has ruled that the 2nd Amendment is not limitless and that "reasonable restrictions" are permissible under the Constitution. They so far have upheld that May Issue Permits Schemes for Carry/Purchase/Ownership are legal. Additionally they've so far upheld that bans on certain types of firearms are legal as long as it isn't an outright ban. They hold that you can own a Remington Nylon 66 but not a Colt SP1. Why? Because the entire class of rifles isn't banned. A good number of the population of this country lives in places with heavy restrictions. New York, Massachusetts, California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, and Washington DC alone make up a big chunk of the people that make up this country.

People make up the politics and politics make the law. Rural nothingness populated by dirt doesn't vote. People do and Reynolds v. Simms has made sure that urban areas always get the vote and they outnumber and out vote rural areas.

So nothing stops such things to make their way up to the SCOTUS and continue to rule that gun control is Constitutional. Especially when things like how courts can be staffed.

 

[junglefighter]

Glock 43X works for me. It's small, accurate and my EDC is a Glock 45(17 rds.).I like the same pistol controls, whether large or small.

 

[TTSH]

Have never considered "high capacity" in choosing a carry gun.

Up in NH, you can buy whatever you want. Sure wish it were that way where I live a few miles South of you.

Anyway, on to my point. High capacity does not always mean 15, 20, 30 or 50 rounds. High capacity means as little as 11 rounds. My 11-round 4006 would be illegal today as it was sold back before the AWB. A new 11-round Springfield Hellcat would be illegal here with its design capacity magazine. My beloved 12-round 6906 could not be sold here today with its design capacity magazine.

10 rounds is just an arbitrary number. Is my 11-round 4006 that much more deadly than a 10-rounder in the same caliber? I don't think so. Is the 11-round Hellcat more deadly than the 10-round P365? Well, only in the eyes of Springfield marketers maybe.

It would be so nice not to have an arbitrary limitation on what I can buy. I envy your freedom.

 

[Echo40]

I hear that a lot... i.e., the goal of maximizing your state-allowed firepower in the smallest carry package available. That's why the P365 is so popular here in moonbat Massachusetts. It certainly makes more sense than, say, an M&P9 holding a 10-round crippled magazine instead of its intended 17-round magazine.

Same idea for a .40 or a .45 if your goal is the same. Carrying a partially empty gun in whatever caliber doesn't make a lot of sense to some people.

But again, those wanting a higher capacity handgun (>10+1 rounds) can still do pre-ban magazines in my moonbat state, which explains the popularity of the Glock offerings and why old, used pre-ban magazines for Glocks cost crazy amounts of money.

For me, it's less about maximizing carry capacity and more because if I can carry something smaller, lighter, and easier to conceal which holds the same amount of rounds without compromising accuracy, then why not?

I carried a subcompact Walther PPK/S for years, so that's the size of gun I'm most familiar shooting with, and I only upgraded to high capacity because I happened upon a SW40VE for $199 and wanted something more powerful due to wild animals creeping into my residential area.

So yeah, should I end up having to carry a firearm which is restricted to 10 rounds in the future, then I would sooner carry a subcompact than a compact or full-size pistol. Sure, I could just use 10rd magazines, in fact my SW40VE came with one 10rd magazine to begin with, and it's already lightweight enough for carry as it is, but I often find myself wishing that it was a bit shorter in the grip.

 

[Bill Bates]

this is my house gun. Since I picked up my 45 Shield it only gets carried now and then. It comes with 10 rounds magazines in a caliber I like, .45 ACP. My Glock 30SF.

 

[lrrifleman]

Forte, thank you for this post!

I happen to live in the NJSSR, where I can only own neutered guns, am not trusted (along with other lawful owners) to have a carry permit, and face a minimum of 3.5 years in prison for possession of each loaded magazine.

When I can exercise my nonresident permit, I carry (or will) the following:
a) day trips - either my 686+ 3" or my soon to be obtained 629 3" loaded with specials.
b) longer than day trips - currently my Ruger 1911CMD in 45 with 8 + 1, or once it arrives and my purchase permit comes in, a Sig P365 with Lima 365.

Let me qualify my response. I am relatively proficient with a handgun so I am not worried about not hitting the threat, it is engaging multiple threats as what is being seen in current "peaceful protests". I don't go out of my way looking for trouble, but being disabled, I can't readily run from trouble that finds me. I want the ability to make a rapid reload, since the added seconds may dictate whether I make it home to my family at the end of the day or ordeal. I don't want to live a life of seclusion fearing the masses. I would prefer to rely on the 45, but sometimes the injuries mandate a lighter round (hence the 9mm), and I look forward to trying out the P229 in 40 S&W.

All in all, being limited to what you can legally possess tends to add a few wrinkles to life.

 

[gerhard1]

I'm curious what folks who live in states with restrictions on magazine capacity are carrying or otherwise what folks would carry should they move into a state with said restrictions.

I've been considering this lately and I've narrowed it down to either a Smith & Wesson M&P40 Compact 1.0 or an M&P45 Shield, but I'm curious what some other options might be.

What do you or would you carry?

I'll carry what I've always carried: wheelguns. Probably a Model 65 or a 681.

 

[nipperdog]

I'm comfortable with my 640 Pro 5 Shooter

 

[Miami_JBT]

Forte, thank you for this post!

I happen to live in the NJSSR, where I can only own neutered guns, am not trusted (along with other lawful owners) to have a carry permit, and face a minimum of 3.5 years in prison for possession of each loaded magazine.

When I can exercise my nonresident permit, I carry (or will) the following:
a) day trips - either my 686+ 3" or my soon to be obtained 629 3" loaded with specials.
b) longer than day trips - currently my Ruger 1911CMD in 45 with 8 + 1, or once it arrives and my purchase permit comes in, a Sig P365 with Lima 365.

Let me qualify my response. I am relatively proficient with a handgun so I am not worried about not hitting the threat, it is engaging multiple threats as what is being seen in current "peaceful protests". I don't go out of my way looking for trouble, but being disabled, I can't readily run from trouble that finds me. I want the ability to make a rapid reload, since the added seconds may dictate whether I make it home to my family at the end of the day or ordeal. I don't want to live a life of seclusion fearing the masses. I would prefer to rely on the 45, but sometimes the injuries mandate a lighter round (hence the 9mm), and I look forward to trying out the P229 in 40 S&W.

All in all, being limited to what you can legally possess tends to add a few wrinkles to life.

I have family in the People's Socialist Democratic Non Republican Republic of New Jersey. I know what you go through. Luckily I have my LEOSA creds so I can carry in general nonpermissive environments and when I carry it is a neutered gun. Usually a GLOCK 27 Gen 4. It is compact, easy to conceal, and quick to reload. Also .40 S&W is a hell of a barrier penetrator even today. Windshield Auto Glass is still a tough nut to crack for 9mm and .45 ACP.

I was never a fan of the P229. I instead have a P239 and a SP2022 in .40 S&W. I find them to be better than the P229 and P226.

 

[JH1951]

Same thing I carry now, a Mod. 649..... and maybe add my Mod. 10-5, and depending on where I go, perhaps substitute my SIG Ultra 1911. In any event, among the three I see no problems. Sadly my BHP's may stay at home.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Same thing I carry now, a Mod. 649..... and maybe add my Mod. 10-5, and depending on where I go, perhaps substitute my SIG Ultra 1911. In any event, among the three I see no problems. Sadly my BHP's may stay at home.

That's why I like my .40 S&W BHP.

 

[URIT]

If limited to 10 rounds in .40 or .45, I'd opt for my Smith & Wesson Model 4053. I prefer the Gen3 metals over the modern M&P options.

I like the DAO version of the 4013 and carry my 4053 in an IWB Don Hume H715-M W/C-S #33. Gun, 8+1 SD ammo, and holster weighs only 37 ounces.

Smith & Wesson Model 4053 .40 S&W

 

[TTSH]

I like the DAO version of the 4013 and carry my 4053 in an IWB Don Hume H715-M W/C-S #33. Gun, 9+1 SD ammo, and holster weighs only 37 ounces.

I'm sure you meant 8+1, unless you are talking the TSW version.

 

[Johnnu2]

2 J frames