In praise of Fast Food

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The recent threads of board members describing their bad experiences with poor food and poor service at even "upscale" restaurants got me thing about my recent experiences with some of the fast food chains, usually Burger King or McDonald's. I recall an episode of Dick Cavett some 30 years ago, he was interviewing Julia Child, he asked what she thought of chains like those, she was quite positive, she said their quality
control was excellent, as was their portion control, she said you know what you're getting. As to the complaint that such 'food" is fattening, the one dietitian I knew said ALL food is fattening if you eat far more than you actually need-she said excess food has a way of going to "waist".
So recently I have been visiting either Burger King or McDonald's in company with some people after church. My one friend likes a nearby McDonald's, it has a play area for the kiddies where they can let off steam while adults partake, he told me he took his daughter there one day, he read while she played, the next thing he knew 2 hours had gone by. And nobody bothered him about his seat. When I go there by myself I note the parents with small children invariably gravitate to the play area-which is behind glass walls, with a door AND a bathroom, so the main dining area is usually quiet for conversation.
McDonald's has Hamburger U., which I have been told is quite rigorous
with high standards, Burger King must have something similar. I see a great deal of hands on management, at the one Burger King I often see "the" boss manning the cash register or the drive through window.
There seems to be a fair number of teenagers, at least in the summer.
I think that's good, not only do they get work experience but they have to work in a fairly disciplined work environment where rules and regulations are followed to the letter and prescribed procedures are carefully followed. The kids have to wear uniforms and at least report for work clean and neat and observe courtesy when dealing with customers.
A couple of times I have noted managers sitting down with employees, critiquing them and filling out paperwork-documentation, if you prefer.
One Burger King manager told me that each manager has quite a bit of leeway as to how he runs his store, he had a hostess to help with the seating, another told me he made sure he had one or two "healthy young bucks" to help seniors into their seats or to their cars, keep the walkway clear in snowy weather. On those occasions when I had to wait for an item I have usually been told, have a seat, it will be brought to me-and I like the ones with free refills on the soda.
In short, they understand service and know if they want your dollars they have to work for them.
 
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I'm angry because Jack in the Box has discontinued the grilled pastrami sandwich. That was some greasy goodness right there.
 
My favorite fast food: Chik Fil A. Always great service, great food, sparkling clean. They're Christian-run, I believe - closed on Sundays. The kiddie toys are usually of high quality and educational in some respect. I always stop at one when I find them.
 
I recently left a 45 yr career repairing cash registers. It sounds rather mundane I know. 35 of those yrs I worked for National Cash Register Co. a world wide company whose founder introduced the cash register in 1885. I've worked on the self check out lanes and in all the nationally known fast food places. With the exception of McDonalds and White Castle fast food places are filthy. Believe me I'm no "cleannik" Any time I had to remove a register from a sight, I'd place it in a large plastic bag and seal it to keep the roaches from escaping the machine into my company van. I'm really allergic to MSG, so fast food is out.
 
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I worked for KFC in Gary, IN while in HS (1966) - I still won't eat KFC chicken!
Then went on to McDonald's in 67 - Clean, clean, clean - A good place to work too! Totally opposite ends of the spectrum in so many ways.
 
If you look up Yum brands (which includes KFC) you'll find many of the places I've had experience with (except A&W) and absolutely DON'T recommend if you worry about what you eat.
 
I worked at McDonalds one summer back in the 60's - they paid $1.05/hr which I was tickled with - that anyone would pay me for doing anything at that age (16 or so). I learned a lot about business that summer - especially how much hard work it takes to run one. That place was cleaned top to bottom every morning starting @ 5 AM and the customer was always right even if they were wrong. Great experience.
 
In terms of cleanliness and customer service nobody beats In-n-Out. Pleasant, hard-working, clean-cut kids.
 
My favorite fast food: Chik Fil A. Always great service, great food, sparkling clean. They're Christian-run, I believe - closed on Sundays. The kiddie toys are usually of high quality and educational in some respect. I always stop at one when I find them.

I couldn't agree more Barb.
 
My favorite fast food: Chik Fil A. Always great service, great food, sparkling clean. They're Christian-run, I believe - closed on Sundays. The kiddie toys are usually of high quality and educational in some respect. I always stop at one when I find them.

Chic-fil-a is the cleanest, fastest and friendliest of any, hands down. It is a bit more expensive than other joints out there, and the only one closed one day a week and privately owned. I've never been to one that wasn't just covered-up busy either!

I think it has something to do with the fact that not anyone can just can't go and get a franchise either- he's has a business philosophy incredibly different from anything mainstream, and it works. I've been meaning to buy some the Cathey books.

Plus, it's usually younger folks running it. I've always gotten a "thank you" from the person at the register- I don't even get that at the hardware store anymore. Goes to show you that young folks can still have the courtesy we grew up with...

Chic-fil-a is a southern thing...I hope it stays that way and the rest of the country don't find out about it! ;)
 
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Sure, all food is "fattening" if you eat more than you need. Its simple math.. if calories in > calories burned, you need to store it (as fat). The thing with fast food is it is easy to exceed your needed calorie intake with smaller portions of food.

While you may still feel hungry, you don't realize that the McDonalds cheeseburger and medium fries just gave you 770 calories. Better not wash it down with a small coke, there is another 150 calories. That small meal of a cheeseburger, fries and coke could land the average person at half their needed calories for the day.

The food itself is simply not natural and not good for you. Lets look again at McDonalds.. this time the famous nuggets. If you or I were to make nuggets it would probably be pretty simple.. mostly chicken and bread. The McNugget (and other fast food nuggets) not so much. The simple ingredient of chicken.. contains multiple ingredients... chicken, wheat starch, dextrose, sodium phosphates and some sort of yeast extract. They somehow managed to cram 20 ingredients into the breading alone. Even Chick-fil-a has a lengthy list of interesting ingredients in its food, although they do use real chicken at least!

Any chain where they have bulk prepared foods sent to individual restaurants will not have "healthy" food. Most of the food they serve will be packed full of preservatives and will be calorie dense.

After seeing "supersize me" I had a friend who swore off fast food. Fine.. however I told him he needed to consider that fact that eating any food in the amount the guy in the movie was eating could lead to negative health results. If you ate it in normal ammounts and stayed active, youd be fine. To prove my point I ate junk food (pizza, burritos etc) for two weeks. I kept up with my workout routine and in the end lost three pounds over those two weeks.

In general I'm very conscious about what I consume. Most of my produce is homegrown, and the stuff I buy is USDA certified organic. I also read the labels of food that I buy and avoid excess preservatives and artificial crud.
 
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All fast food is poison. All sell hormone and genetically altered crap pushed by Conagra and Cargill. They've screwed up the food chain so much, the brain-dead sheople are doomed.
 
Human beings have been genetically modifying food for 4,000 years or so.
I agree preservatives, artificials sweeteners and colorings are best avoided. The instructor in one of my MBA courses told us how one of the snack food companies stopped using preservatives 30 years ago-they found their turnover was so rapid and their products on the shelves for 2 weeks at most, the preservatives were a waste of money.
 
Have to agree with USAF385. With all the additives and preservatives, it's a wonder we have to be embalmed when we die! Not to mention the sodium content of most fast food. USAF385, you sound a lot like my son. He's very conscious of what he eats, works out all the time, and tries to stay healthy. Johngalt, I ate at Culvers awhile back while visiting my Mom in Michigan. I had never ate at one before, but stopped there for lunch at Mom's recommendation. Their burgers are some of the best! (yes, probably loaded with sodium, but it sure tasted good!)
 
My favorite fast food: Chik Fil A. Always great service, great food, sparkling clean. They're Christian-run, I believe - closed on Sundays. The kiddie toys are usually of high quality and educational in some respect. I always stop at one when I find them.

I remember when it was tough finding a business that was open on Sundays. Now it's tough finding a place that isn't. Sad.
 
Sure, all food is "fattening" if you eat more than you need. Its simple math.. if calories in > calories burned, you need to store it (as fat). The thing with fast food is it is easy to exceed your needed calorie intake with smaller portions of food.

That's it, in a nutshell. McDonald's prints nutrition info on the back of every tray liner. Anyone that can read can see what they're eating - assuming the numbers displayed bear some resemblance to reality. In other words, don't blame them for indiscretions they can't control. :)

I have no gripe with McD and have patronized them since I was a teenager. I don't like the way they "blackmail" parents with toys for kids, but everyone does that. :mad: In the big picture, the organization is amazingly well run and does more than just sell hamburgers. They're not for everybody, but they fill a need. That need is mainly catering to people who haven't got the time (or who think they haven't got the time) to prepare their own food. There is no doubt better food is available. Unfortunately, having that high-quality food around when you need it is both time consuming and expensive.
 
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