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ALL 38K numbers were assigned in 1978. Shipping, of course, could be later.
Jack Flash
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Beautiful. Last of the P&R 19s
That Model 19 looks to be in really nice, clean condition. Congrats on the acquisition.
I don't ever remember seeing box labels with square corners, however, which might be an indication that the label is not original. And the label is missing some information always included from the factory (such as TT, TH, INS, PKR).
I don't ever remember seeing box labels with square corners, however, which might be an indication that the label is not original. And the label is missing some information always included from the factory (such as TT, TH, INS, PKR).
Doug M.
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Pinned and Recessed. That means that there is a pin in the barrel near the frame, part of mounting it so that it is tight and stays that way. Recessed means that the chambers in the cylinder are recessed so that the cartridge rims are completely surrounded, a practice limited to .22s and magnums as I recall. There had been a belief, which MAY have been justified for a little while, that surrounding the rims with metal in that way needed to keep the higher pressure rounds from having cartridge case failures. Many of the hard core collectors tend to believe that this period was the best of S&W manufacture.
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You are right. The box label is not original. I don’t care about those boxes myself, but I dislike false advertisement. The gun likely could have been had a little cheaper without that trick.
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"Found these on ebay, now I'm convinced that the box is not original."
Well, maybe, maybe not. If the box is "period correct", and of the proper size for your revolver, it still might be original, even if the label is not.
Sometimes an original label is removed or otherwise comes off (though rare) and is replaced with a non-factory label. While I thought the label on your box looked to be unoriginal, I couldn't see enough of the box to know if it was.
Your box looks to be a "five ringer." The metal clamps holding the corners of these boxes together have three, four, or five "rings", depending on the frame size of the revolver, and whether or not it was originally equipped with Target Stocks from the factory. Your Combat Magnum would have shipped in a "five ring" box (as a K-frame with Target Stocks as original equipment), so you have that going for you.
Most often, though, a nickel gun from your gun's era would ship in a grey box, whereas a blued gun would ship in a blue box, but this was not always the case.
We would need to see the top and bottom, and other end of your box (showing any other markings and/or factory imprinting) to be more helpful.
Well, maybe, maybe not. If the box is "period correct", and of the proper size for your revolver, it still might be original, even if the label is not.
Sometimes an original label is removed or otherwise comes off (though rare) and is replaced with a non-factory label. While I thought the label on your box looked to be unoriginal, I couldn't see enough of the box to know if it was.
Your box looks to be a "five ringer." The metal clamps holding the corners of these boxes together have three, four, or five "rings", depending on the frame size of the revolver, and whether or not it was originally equipped with Target Stocks from the factory. Your Combat Magnum would have shipped in a "five ring" box (as a K-frame with Target Stocks as original equipment), so you have that going for you.
Most often, though, a nickel gun from your gun's era would ship in a grey box, whereas a blued gun would ship in a blue box, but this was not always the case.
We would need to see the top and bottom, and other end of your box (showing any other markings and/or factory imprinting) to be more helpful.
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