I originally posted this in the 2A sub forum but I have been told it's outside of the scope of that forum so I reposted here
I ran into a buddy of mine at church this morning and I mentioned that Kansas has introduced legislation that would do away with the handgun permit system in their state.
My friend looks at me and says “Oh that ain’t good” and I asked him “why?”
Him: “Well that means anyone can carry a gun legally”
Me:“No it doesn’t, if you can’t legally own a gun you can’t legally carry it. That won’t change”
Him: “Well criminals don’t pay attention to that anyway.”
Me: And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
I got “the Look.”
Then I said to him “you’re a police officer, if you pull someone over and they aren’t legal to own a gun and they’re carrying one you arrest them right?” (We had already stipulated that any time he pulls someone over he runs them for wants, warrants and priors)
Then he says “Well if know one has to have a permit how would I know they were carrying a gun?”
Me: “How do you know now?”
Him “Well, I don’t.”
Me: “Me: And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
Then I started to say that in his shoes I’d ask everyone I stopped if they had a gun on them. He then said “There’s really no point, the only people that will tell you the truth are the law abiding and the criminals who don’t.”
To which I replied “And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
Then something came up and he had to leave but he walked up to me after church and said I thought about what you said all during service and you’re right permits only effect the law abiding and we shouldn’t have to get one.
I was very surprised because before service he was dead set that Kansas (and by extension Colorado if it ever happens here) going permitless was a bad thing.
I ran into a buddy of mine at church this morning and I mentioned that Kansas has introduced legislation that would do away with the handgun permit system in their state.
My friend looks at me and says “Oh that ain’t good” and I asked him “why?”
Him: “Well that means anyone can carry a gun legally”
Me:“No it doesn’t, if you can’t legally own a gun you can’t legally carry it. That won’t change”
Him: “Well criminals don’t pay attention to that anyway.”
Me: And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
I got “the Look.”
Then I said to him “you’re a police officer, if you pull someone over and they aren’t legal to own a gun and they’re carrying one you arrest them right?” (We had already stipulated that any time he pulls someone over he runs them for wants, warrants and priors)
Then he says “Well if know one has to have a permit how would I know they were carrying a gun?”
Me: “How do you know now?”
Him “Well, I don’t.”
Me: “Me: And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
Then I started to say that in his shoes I’d ask everyone I stopped if they had a gun on them. He then said “There’s really no point, the only people that will tell you the truth are the law abiding and the criminals who don’t.”
To which I replied “And requiring me to have permit changes that how exactly?”
Then something came up and he had to leave but he walked up to me after church and said I thought about what you said all during service and you’re right permits only effect the law abiding and we shouldn’t have to get one.
I was very surprised because before service he was dead set that Kansas (and by extension Colorado if it ever happens here) going permitless was a bad thing.