interesting open carry option seen today

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as I was having lunch with my grand kids today I saw a guy carrying a revolver in what appeared to be a left hand IWB holster clipped to the right front pocket of his jeans. it was flopping around every step he took. did not look all that secure to me. my granddaughter asked me if I had a holster like that. I said I did and I had it on at the time but in the proper place. just an interesting observation. we have always had open carry in TN and in the 17 years I have been back home I may have seen half a dozen people open carrying. lee
 
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Last summer I was in Home Depot picking up a few things and I saw a guy doing a "slow stroll" down the aisle while open carrying a revolver in a uncle mikes type of holster. What caught my eye was that he had the holster barely down inside his waist and not clipped or fastened to his person in any way!
It looked like it would fall out at any second.
Anyone desiring to could have snatched the gun AND holster from him before he could do anything.

He didn't appear to be looking for any merchandise either so I pegged him as another person just out to say "look at me - I have a gun".
 
Colorado is an open carry state as well. Most of what I have come across is the fancy .45 show off Wilson Combat and Kimber dressed up grips and fancy leather. Just showing off.
 
I will NEVER open carry. It gives away your tactical advantage and puts the target on your back for the bad guy. I think that many who do open carry are just showing off.

Yes, I think so too. KS has open carry and has for quite a while, in all that time I have seen exactly 2 people open carrying, and one may have been a plain clothes officer without his jacket on.
 
I see people open carry all the time at WalMart. No one cares or pays them any attention. But we can in Tennessee with a permit.
 
The System

I could write some nasty things about a minority of OC individuals that's likely to get me banned.

Early on in law enforcement, I came to realize that carrying a gun for a living did not begin and end with the gun. As a firearms instructor, I came to realize that we carried a self defense system made up of the gun, extra ammo, a means of carrying that extra ammo, a holster, belt and a means of concealment yet with ready access. The system is only as good as its weakest link. As the OP observed, too many people carry guns with the subconscious belief that they will never have to use it.

Open carry if you choose or where legal but you must guard against a sudden, high-speed disarming attempt. Within the past year, I recall at least one forcible disarming in which the OC individual was slain with his own firearm. The gun should be reasonably secure and, in my opinion, OC rigs should have some sort of retention device.

Incidentally, I witnessed at least a dozen imitation leather dress belts come apart at the buckle during handgun retention exercises. The belt is the third most important thing after the gun and holster.
 
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I don't think that I could, or would, at this point, want to open carry, but, all of you critical observers take a minute, and try to remember how many of those open carry folks, that you observed, were being robbed, or molested? Food for thought? My study of history, shows a very polite, self reliant public when the public goes armed, and are not relying on a loud mouth, and "Uncle Sugar" that is not required to protect anyone. I have however found, back in history, entire groups of unarmed people being eradicated, by Their governments. Now after the public is disarmed, a single, or a couple of "nuts", can always acquire illegal weapons, and use them on a public, not able to legally protect themselves. Do you trust our Government with your family's, and your lives? Food for thought?
Chubbo
 
This got me to thinking and as near as I can remember, just about ever person I've ever seen open carrying had some sort of cheap, junk holster. Kinda makes you wonder, don't it? :confused:

I carry concealed mostly, but on the few occasions I open-carry it's in a Bianchi Cyclone 111.......just thought you might be interested. :D

Don
 
This is one of my big reasons against open carry, you have fools who just want to show off and carry for the sake of it. If you're going to carry a firearm, let alone openly, know your equipment and how it functions. That goes for your holster as well. Firearms aren't an accessory.
 
I carry concealed mostly, but on the few occasions I open-carry it's in a Bianchi Cyclone 111.......just thought you might be interested. :D

Don

Don, you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to use a nylon sausage sack with the attached pouch in front. You know, for your "extra clip". ;)
 
well............

This is one of my big reasons against open carry, you have fools who just want to show off and carry for the sake of it. If you're going to carry a firearm, let alone openly, know your equipment and how it functions. That goes for your holster as well. Firearms aren't an accessory.

I wonder there old son, does my rig pass your muster or am I just show'n off...

 
... so the Alamo only had Davy Crocket present, astounding kill ratio even if I do say so myself.

Baloney..............

Technically this bountiful, sovereign and graceful land and its industrious folk were and still would be Texas and Texans respectively under theoretical, but never meaningful, Mexican rule.
 
Well, I disagree with some of what has been said. If'n yer workin' outdoors and common sense suggests a firearm, you take one. Carryin' a long gun ties up one hand and tires you out over a day. Havin' a sidearm on yer hip makes a lot more sense if yer adoin' actual work. I know, the police types define work as standin' around in a group, BS'n. I mean actually pick'n stuff up and movin' it around, or hammerin' on things, etc. No, you can use yer sidearm as the hammer. It doesn't fit my style. I see nothin' wrong with a farmer or rancher with a gun on his hip. It makes a lot more sense than havin' it concealed under his dress jacket when the temps are above 90, or 100. Do as you please, but don't leave out common sense.

When I was young and even more stupid, there was this little party my daddy threw out in the hay field. He called it "hay'n" and his trusty little revolver was on his side. Plainly visible to anyone within maybe 100 feet. I shore would like to see you disarm'n experts walk up to him and take that thing away. I kind of think you'd better have an excuse fer bein' in his field and approachin' us. Even if we were in the barn and you appeard out of now where, you'd be what we'd call a trusspasser, and he'd be thinkin' about usin' the revolver on you before you could get very close.

Back when huntin' bunnies and tree rats seemed like a good idea, I'd often haul a 22 pistol on my side. Not sure why, just seemed to make some sense to me. I've even shot a few stupid tree rats with it. Back in those days, concealed was forbidden. Hardly anyone but our huntin' party saw us. Course if we got done and headed into town, we'd put all the guns, including the rifles, shotguns, and handguns in the trunk. Anyone with any sense at all figured we had guns, but why else would be be dressed with canvas clothes and have a big ole license pinned to our backs?

To me, that was open carry. Part of what they say is true. If yer up to no good, shoot the guy with an exposed gun first. But that's done with city slickers. I did have an exposed handgun one time. In a bank no less. On payday I'd rush home. If I came through the door yell'n, old spot my dalmatian would run in circles and bounce of the walls. He knew darn good and well what was up. So I'd change clothes or at least shoes and get him all roped up. Then with my carry piece under a jacket, and my paycheck in my pocket, we'd head out. From the house, it was at least 2 miles. A guy doin' a forced march can cover that in about 30 to 40 minutes. So we went into the bank and got in the slaughter line. We'd move up a step or two, and I'd tell him to sit. He knew the drill. And when he did, I'd pet him and tell him he was a good-boy. We knew the tellers and the guard. On this one day, I'd bent down a few times and petted my pooch. That day the guard walked over and very quietly said "your carry piece is showing". So I straightened out my jacket and we went on through the like without other incident. I'd guess no one cared one hoot. The tellers even had suckers for the kids and milk bones for the various dogs that came along. Nice friendly place it was. Let that cover concealed carry in a bank and unplanned exposure. If'n you're not tryin' to make a fuss, no one cares.
 
My state has had conceal carry for years an then came back and pasted an open carry law. The state (MS) constitution already allowed it but the proponents stated it "cleared the issue for enforcement"

Me personal I never open carry unless working on my farm or during hunting season. I think those people referened give all of use a bad image
 
open carry is legal in new mex with no permit.
i'm about the only one around here who does, n that's just during snake season.
most people just carry in their car, as concealed in a car is legal with no permit.
open is still a novelty in texas, so people are making a big deal of it.
here, it's always been legal so most don't bother with it.
 
Before all our Texan brothers get all upset. Yes the Alamo defenders died as Texans.But they came from everwhere.Tennessee is rightly proud of our sons who went to Texas .They went not just to the Alamo,but all over Texas.Sam Houston "Please remove your hats"learned his fighting skills under Andy Jackson as a Tennessean and he certainly showed Santa Ana a thing or two.Tennessee and Texas have always had a special relationship.Let us all be proud of it. I apologize for the thread drift.
 
There are so many facets to this issue it's hard to address them all in one post. I personally choose not to opencarry but support the rights of those who choose to do so.

I don't think it makes other people nervous because most of the time they don't even seem aware of it. I know this doesn't count as data but every time I point out an open carrier to my wife she isn't even aware until I do.

Sure there are idiots that open carry and I fully support taking their right to do so based on their specific behavior if they do something stupid while open carrying but I don't want to see the majority punished for the actions of a few.

Does open carry make you a target? Sure it does sometimes but sometimes just being there makes you a target.

All in all unless you can show me statistically significant numbers of open carriers being robbed for their guns or causing legitimate public disturbances I'm going to come down on the side of personal freedom

There really is no such thing as compromise with an anti. If they ever succeed in banning open carry they will focus all their resources on concealed carry They will not rest until no private citizen had the right to bear arms

Listen, and understand! That Grabber is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely.will.not .stop. until you are disarmed
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