IS IT JUST ME!!!!

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Ok, this is going to be a rant. I just feel the need to vent. If you are not interested in reading it, this is the time to click out.

You had fair warning.

This is one of those things that is becoming ever so common in an era where actual gun shops are being replaced by chain sporting goods stores that happen to also sell guns and ammunition.

I find myself in need of some .45 ACP ammo. Nothing particularly special, just 100 rounds or so of reliable ball fodder to help break in a new 1911. I chose the store in question due to the fact that it usually has fairly good ammo prices, especially if you happen to catch a sale. That's the good news. This store is arranged so the "hunting" section is located in the far back corner (Why is that? Are they ashamed they have to carry firearms, ammunition, and hunting gear for the local redneck population?) Anyway, the rifle, shotgun, and rimfire ammo is all situated on shelves in isles where customers can select what they want (An arrangement I much prefer, as opposed to having to rely on someone else to pick out ammo for me). Conversely, the handgun ammunition is in a locked case behind a counter where it can only be accessed by an employee. From my side of the counter, I can see several boxes of .45 ammo, to include both 50 and 100 round boxes of Remington/UMC that should meet my needs quite well. What I can't see, of course, is the price of any of the ammo in the case. So now I stand there like an idiot and wait for someone to help me. And I wait, and I wait, AND I WAIT!

Finally, when it appears unlikely that anyone will ever appear behind the counter, I walk all the way back to the front of the store where I locate the only visible employee in the building behind one of the cash registers. I approach him and ask if someone can assist me at the gun counter. Without ever even looking up at me, this pilgrim grunts: "uh huh." He then calls over the in-store intercom for someone to meet me.

Now I again make my way back to the hunting department, and wait for several more minutes. Finally, my 18 year old hero emerges from a back store room, and asks if he can help me. "Yes," I said. " I am looking for some inexpensive .45 ACP ammunition." In response, my young friend looks at me blankly and says: "Um, I don't know much about ammunition. Which one is that?"

Ok, I can forgive ignorance. I realize not everyone has spent the better part of the past 4 decades shooting, training with, and working on, firearms. I am also aware of the fact that the general population views those of us who have done so as being weird. I'm OK with being weird. In my young clerk's defense, I'm certain he was infinitely conversant regarding the various basketballs, sunglasses, and athletic shoes, sold in other parts of the store.

So now I find myself having to help the person who is supposed to be helping me. I lean over the counter and point to the case while saying: "The .45 Auto ammo, right there." So what does my friend do? He opens the case, grabs the first box he lays his hand on, and slaps it on the counter. Of course it is a 20 round box of premium defensive ammunition priced at over $30. Now, keep in mind that my patience is already wearing thin due to my endless wait at the counter, and having to have this kid paged; but it seems to me that even someone with NO ammunition knowledge could zero in on the fact that the customer said " inexpensive" ammunition, and the much bigger boxes in the case were less expensive than the little one he pulled out! But, I suppose I have to share some of the blame. The box he pulled out did say ".45 Auto" just like I said. The boxes beside it were marked ".45 Automatic" and that connection was clearly too great a leap for my friend.

Pressing on, I tell the clerk that I don't need ammo of that sort, and ask to see one of the "bigger green and white boxes" (I'm trying to keep it simple for him). So now he reaches back into the case and produces one of the 50 round boxes of Remington/UMC 230 grain FMJ's. The price is $23.99. Ok, not bad. I was hoping to catch a sale for $19.99 or so, but I can live with this. Still, I needed 100 rounds. So I ask my young friend to pull out one of the bigger green and white boxes; and here is where things really start to go awry. I should point out that the clerk seemed ever so slightly miffed when I hadn't just taken the first box he pulled out and gone away. I'm not sure what was going on in the store room, but it must have been far more interesting than me.

So now he pulls out one of the 100 round boxes of the Remington/UMC. keep in mind that the 50 round box was $23.99. So how much is the 100 round box of the same exact stuff? $59.99. Whoa! This can't be right. If anything, the 100 round box should be a little less than twice the price of the 50 round box. Believing the box to be mismarked, I pointed out the price discrepancy to the adolescent math-whiz behind the counter. His response? Rather dissmissively: "Well, I don't price it."

At this point, I'm starting to feel like I'm the butt of some kind of joke. So I tell the youngster: "Fine, I'll just take two of the 50 round boxes." Nope. You guessed it. The one already on the counter is the last one in the store. Becoming more annoyed by the second, I noticed that there was another 100 round box still in the case. I asked to see that one just to see if it was marked at the same price as the other one. Now, my young friend turns back to the case, and looks at the shelf below the one HE HAS TAKEN EVERY OTHER BOX FROM, and says: "That one is .38 Special."

"No, Einstein," I think to myself. "it's on the next shelf up," I actually said.

This time he gets it right, and Lo and behold, the other box is priced at $43.99. Ok, finally. So I grab that box before anything can happen to it, and again point out the price disparity on the other box (now with even more evidence). So what does our hero do? Does he call the problem to the attention of a manager? Does he set the mismarked box off to the side until it can be re-priced? No. He puts all the ammo back in the case so the mismarked box can be sold to the next unwitting customer, and then stumps off back toward the store room, acting like I'm some kind of jerk!

Caveat emptor, folks. Caveat emptor

HRF
 
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No it is not just you and it is sadly becoming the status quo for what is the greatest country in the history of the world. Certain segments of our country, mainly the liberals, believe that the hard work of our forefathers that made this the greatest country entitles them to distribute the fruits of those labors to others. Rather than each man continue to earn the American Dream, if there is such a thing anymore, we allow people to subsist and makes excuses rather than take responsibility for their own actions and status in life.

I am 30, and the more young people I meet that sadder I become. Unless we get the rest of these imbeciles out of office and replace the existing ones with those who have the balls to stand up for what's right we will continue to suffer. Seems the only people with balls in DC anymore wear skirts
 
I'm with you. Happens all the time. I used to try to educate the little darlings until I had this exchange:

The grocery stores have shelf tags that give not only the price, but break it down into a cost per unit measure. In this case, it was cheese. I'm looking at two different brands, both 8 ounces, both $1.99. Problem was the cost per ounce for one was vastly higher than the other. A simple error in marking. I bring it up to the clerk's attention, and he doesn't get it at all.
"But Sir, they're the same price. What's the problem?"

Me: "Yes I know. But you do realize the cost per ounce differs and there is no way it is correct, right?"

Clerk: "I don't see a problem."

Me: "Look - they,re the same size and the same price. How can one be more per ounce than the other?'

Clerk: "Sir, I don't mean to make you look stupid but it's obvious".

"That one's sliced."

I gave up then and there...
 
I buy 99.9% of my ammo on the Internet. This is one of the plethora of reasons why I do.
 
Wow $59.99 plinking .45 ammo, must be some real good shooting stuff :D How come you didn't buy it, it was more than twice as good as the 50 round box, right?
 
I needed 100 rounds of .357 for an IDPA match this Saturday.

I spent about 6 hours spread out over 3 evenings to go from ingots and other various components to loaded rounds.

Didn't have to deal with any such hassles like the OP did.
 
Another example

of the deliberate dumbing down of American youth! SHEEPLE!!!
 
This is the way it is everywhere. My local Wal-Mart never has a person working at the sporting goods/ammo counter. If they have ammo I want I just call the number for the store on my cell (which is on speed dial) and explain that I am currently inside the store and at the counter and need assistance. If I don't do this I can watch about 25 various employees walk by me without any of them once asking if I need any help with anything.
 
Let's put the blame squarely on the shoulders of those responsible. The corporate suits who probably never worked retail and were educated by "business" professors who had no real world experience. Then there is the problem of companies paring down their workforce to save money, since less in coming in. There is the problem of store managers not cross-training employees. I worked part-time in a corporate retail environment for a few years and I believe we had 5 or 6 store managers in that time. "Associates" or in other words the bottom of the rung folks who actually do the work, aren't treated with any kind of respect or dignity by the managers. Associates aren't motivated to learn anything about other departments, because there is no incentive. The workload, including breaking down shipments, stocking, cleaning the store and waiting on the customers increases all the time. Good folks usually won't stick around too long, so you end up getting, so to speak, not the Latte you want, but the coffee grounds. Unfortunately we will never return to the days of the owner of the store actually being present and dealing with customers and employees. That's the price we pay for the absolutely lowest prices on products, as well as, lower quality products.
 
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This has been my gripe for about ten years now.

The sliced thing is priceless... Especially because he didn't want to make you look like an idiot... :D

Salesmen are few and far between. In every business not just retail sales. Every time I walk in a store I expect that I will get no knowledgeable help, and I am never disappointed.

How many times have you asked a question only to have the sales guy pick up the box and start reading it? How many times has a salesperson told you to find the information online?

Well, I do find the information online, and I usually buy it online.

One exception that just tickled me to death was the little (and I mean LITTLE) gun shop I just found two hours south of here. The place is PACKED wall to wall with guns and accessories, priced about 10% higher than you can get online, but there are dogs laying on the floor, and guys with guns on their hips and hunting in their blood. The old owner came in when I found the place and we talked about his dogs and the current state of duck hunting in the area for 45 minutes. Wonderful chap and I'm SURE that is why the place is so small and successful, even though it is literally in the middle of NOWHERE.

I had just stopped to look, and ended up walking out with $700 worth of stuff and a new favorite gun store.

Sad state of affairs, but we are witnessing the decline of the store as we know it.
 
Reguardless of what is priced on the box, the only sure way to know the price is to scan the bar code. In this case, if the bar code was the same on both boxes, then the price will be the same, reguardless of how they are priced. They could be priced at $X, but when scanned they ring up $Y, which is what you are going to pay for that item.
 
LOL brings back memories of exactly the same experience I had recently at a store that rhythms with GANDER MOUNTAIN! Same dismissive attitude,only the genius behind the counter was the manager of the gun department...I don't bother going there anymore and tell my friends to go across the street and pay the extra fifty cents to help support the local gun shop that has to compete with these so called Retail Giants.
 
Were you at Dunhams? Because that sounds like every gun area experience I've had there.lol
 
Reguardless of what is priced on the box, the only sure way to know the price is to scan the bar code. In this case, if the bar code was the same on both boxes, then the price will be the same, reguardless of how they are priced. They could be priced at $X, but when scanned they ring up $Y, which is what you are going to pay for that item.

Watch for that, most stores will PAY you if the item is priced wrong.

I bought power bars at Shopko once, you know those granola and vitamin bar things.... Well the sign said they were 59 cents but they rang up at 99 cents and I had grabbed a box of 48 of them.

The cashier called the manager and I had no clue what was happening, but they wouldn't just correct the price and let me go, no they had me go to the customer service counter and they told me it's store policy if something is priced wrong they take $3 off the price or if it costs less than $3, they give the customer the product and the balance of the $3.

So I ended up walking out the door with my case of bars free, and about $120 extra in my pocket.

And I had to tell the manager he had better change the sign or more people would be buying these bars!!! I know as they were explaining this policy to me, people were running back to the power bar display to 'stock up' :D
 
The suits just hire the cheapest thing that can breath. Blame the educational system in this country. If you think the rant is upsetting, how are you going to feel when the vote and procreate?:rolleyes:
 
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