Is the .40 dead ? Let's see some !

[Jeppo]

Three of mine are Special(s).

Thanks to a generous participant in this thread for one of these three. Still searching for a black CS40D.

 

[Fastbolt]

Well, I have as many .40's as I do 9's, and aside from a Glock in each caliber, all of my .40's & 9's are S&W models.

I came to .40 a bit more slowly, having fired my first couple of them in '90, but not buying any of my own until 10 years later. That was only because the .45 I wanted wasn't to be found, but I stumbled across a 4013TSWW and decided to buy it.

Then, a little later I learned my agency was contemplating adopting .40, at least on a small trial basis with a limited number of guns (50 guns?), so I bought a second one which was similar to the model chosen for the pilot program. I took it through a week-long training class, with the ammo provided by my agency, and decided it was a decent gun.

Now I own 5 pistols chambered in .40 ... and have put some tens of thousands of rounds of .40 downrange over the years.

I've been issued both 180gr & 165gr JHP's, and my 4040PD has demonstrated an interesting preference for the 155gr W-W STHP, but if I were going to limit myself to just one bullet weight in .40, for overall use, it would be the 180gr.

 

[Dparker]

My S&W 945-40 and a S&W 4054 I picked up today for 399.99 (heck of a deal IMO!) plus a S&W 4013 2 Tone Decock only I picked up this week!

I do enjoy all my S&W 3rd gen 40 cals!

Cheers!!!
David

 

[sigp220.45]

I had a 646 and I couldn't fall in love with it. It was finicky with what brass it liked to jive with the moon clips. Also, while it does not actually have the lock, it is not a pre-lock era revolver and it was THE example that proved the theory I had long held — it isn't the lock itself that makes the double action on lock guns lousy, it's the MIM parts.

You could easily see that my 646 had the MIM hammer and the double action was just what I expected from a lock gun… which is to say that you squeeze the long trigger and the weight stacks as expected but then when you expect it to release, it dead-stops against a wall, a very firm wall, and you have to break through that wall to discharge the shot.

And I hated it.

Many folks hate the ILS S&W revolvers and I'm in that group but reason is solely based on the wrecked double action trigger and unfortunately, the 646 has it.

Sorry you got a lemon! Mine is great - smooth action, accurate, and 100% reliable. I only use the plastic moonclips from Rimz. They don't get bent and have always worked fine.

 

[Echo40]

My first .40 was a used Sigma SW40VE that I only purchased because I suddenly felt the need for something with more oomph than my LCP after hogs started poking around in the neighbor's field and it only cost me $199.

However, it was the gun that got me into .40 S&W, and the next one I got was much more attractive...

I keep hearing that .40 S&W is dead, yet it just keeps going bang whenever I pull the trigger.

 

[robvious]

Ironically.. no S&W's in 40s&w...
Para-ordnance P16-40
Sig P250
BHP Practical

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

I wondered who would shoot a 40 if you already had 9mm and 45ACP. Then I got this CHP 4006 TSW and found out. Not dead but enough folks think so that you can often find good 40 guns at great prices. Nice round in its own right.

 

[dsf]

Your gun is a Tanfoglio, from F.I.E, not a CZ. Tanfoglio is one of several companies making copies of the basic CZ design.

Mine cost $125 and had apparently been in an evidence room for years! The blued parts were all rusty. I wire brushed the rusted parts and cold blued them and it is acceptable. My SN is only 17 numbers away from yours!

All my brass is .41 Magnum converted on my lathe so I have no ammunition worries! I had a barrel failure one day but was able to find a man named Carleton in Greeley, Colorado that is a fan and had a source of replacement barrels from both Tanfoglio and IWI, probably intended for a Jerico 941. I bought one of each! The Tanfoglio has conventional rifling and the IWI is polygonal.

It wasn't the load, but a pure structural failure of the barrel! It did damage the slide and frame slightly by spreading them, but those were easy to repair.

Just to keep this legitimate to the original .40 thread, I have owned four, a full size Witness, Springfield P9C. an Astra A-75, and a Shorty Forty. The Shorty Forty is the only one I have now.

Saw your PM - thanks. Off by 17 - wow!

My "oops" - yes, a TA-90 I think. The "small frame" type. Safety on the frame.

Really addictive, especially in CA where buying slides, barrels and such don't require a wait. I have 3 frames with 22 lr, 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP.

I have the more limited run Shorty Forty - serial #195 IIRC.

 

[Sevens]

I think sometimes it is worth reminding that .40cal was a very attractive option for folks looking for a handgun during the ten year run of the AWB.

At that time, a .45cal pistol that held more than 8 or so rounds was a rarity and that meant the two other "obvious" choices were a 9mm capped at 10+1 or a .40cal capped at 10+1.

The realities of the times made it a pretty solid choice.

 

[sheepdawg]

Not much luck with 40s except for this one that I bought 15 years ago. I can't remember a single failure and there's probably 3 to 4K through it.

 

[Michaelp57]

40, 40, and more 40

AR40, 4006tsw vjh serial, p80 glock 35 with extra 357sig barrel, shield40 PC, m&p40 4.25"

Got more 40s than anything else in my collection.

 

[olds350rocket]

At 399 for the CHP4006TSW , 260 for the Brinks 4046TSW and 310 for the SWAT CHP 4006TSW. I'd buy them all over again in a heartbeat.

 

[mckenney99]

Like Fastbolt, I have almost as many .40's as I do 9mm's. I got into the caliber when my agency transitioned to its first semi-automatic duty weapon and they chose the .40 S&W caliber. I was very happy with the caliber and still am a fan. I still have my duty Beretta 96, a Star Firestar, Glock 27, Kahr K40, Novak Custom Browning Hi-Power, Duty Sig P226, P226 Tactical & a P229, S&W M&P 40 and a Novak Custom Colt 1911. I found the .40 S&W a good balance between the capacity of the 9mm and the mass of my beloved .45 ACP.

 

[Fastbolt]

I didn't list it in my previous post, but my .40's are comprised of a G27, 4013TSW, SW9940, 4040PD and a M&P 40C (original compact).

The 4013TSW was an impulse buy because I couldn't find one of the then-new aluminum compact 457 or 4513TSW's. I thought I'd take a chance on the compact .40 model I found. Some few years later I ended up being issued a newer version for work. I really like the 4013TSW with the wrap-around finger groove Hogue grip.

I got the SW9940 because it was similar to the guns my agency was trying out.

The G27 wasn't a planned purchase, but just came my way for a price too good to pass up. It had been a factory demo gun for a gun writer, equipped with NS, and had been NIB before having been used for the article.

The 4040PD was a whim buy of a lightly used 1-time T&E gun.

The M&P 40C was my second M&P, and at the last minute I decided to order a compact .40, instead of a compact .45. It shoots like a full-size .40 and feels fine in the hand during live-fire, but I've toyed with the thought of trading it for a Shield 40. I simply prefer the 4013TSW and 4040PD to the 40C, and I'd not mind having a thinner and slightly smaller .40 in the stable.

I had the opportunity to buy a 1-time T&E 4003TSW or 4006TSW for less than $700, and while I thought about the 4003TSW, it was just too large for my EDC preference. The 4006TSW was both too large and too heavy (which is why I never had one issued to myself for work, and why I got rid of the issued 4566TSW after only carrying one for several months ).

I find the chunky G27 'good enough', having put more than 15K rounds through it over time, but really prefer the 4013TSW or 4040PD for the grip ergonomics and triggers.

If I had to do it over again, I'd probably keep the 4013TSW and add a Shield 40. Well, I'd also probably keep the G27, since it's a decent 'beater' EDC. As much as I've gotten a lot of use out of the SW9940 and 4040PD over the years, I have no need for a full-size .40 nowadays, and I still prefer my 3913 & 3913TSW to my 4040PD, all things considered.

 

[WCCPHD]

Only one I have a photo of now.

Vector Arms MP5K PDW clone in .40 S&W

 

[toddimusnimski]

The 4026 and CHP 4006TSW were fine duty guns back in the day and I'm glad to have them in the fold. Can't get pic to stay turned upright but that's ok. I added a lanyard loop and rounded grip to the 4006.

Todd

 

[Rubone]

Only a couple for me, but I am a fan and would add at any time. Not dead for me.
Springfield Armory XD40 Service model and an M&P Shield 40 2.0.

 

[CH4]

It's a great round, I love shooting my SD-40!

Lube/clean it with WD-40?

 

[Well Armed]

Bump... No Glock 40S&W??

 

[toddimusnimski]

Bump... No Glock 40S&W??

Ok fine, Mister Demanding... LOL

The Model 22 was my first handgun purchase, bought new back in '92 when the round was still fairly fresh. The Model 27 came along used in '01. I added the Trijicon night sights and Hogue Handall to the 22 and finger extension baseplates to the 27 magazines. Both also received a factory extended slide and magazine release. Other than that they are stock.

Todd

 

[stantheman86]

I have a few. A S&W 4046 police trade in , a Ruger P94 DAO .40 and a .40 Chiappa Rhino

I like .40, I carried a Glock 22 years ago when I was a nuke plant Guard, I always shot well with it

 

[kfields]

Here's my only .40s&w from Iberia:

 

[USBP SW]

.40 was one of those instances where I had access to an abundance of ammo and needed something to shoot it in. The organization that I worked for provided me with a significant amount of .40 caliber ammo, even after I gave away 4,500 rounds to coworkers, I probably still have 7,000 to 8,000 rounds of factory ammo. I ended up with a Glock 23, Glock 27, HK USP.Compact, a Kimber Custom II, a Ruger PC4 and a Ruger Vaquero, all chambered in .40. I was afraid I'd wear it out if I only had one.

 

[daveo5]

I've had one for the past several years. A Sig 229, fine shooter.


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[Dino44]

My EDC is a Shield in 40 S&W. I only have a handful of others. Two Shorty 40's, One Springfield EMP, and one SIG P229. The Shorty 40 seen below is unique, as it was a display model used by S&W salesman to distributors, according to my letter of authenticity. The other Shorty 40 is a MKII.

 

[4T5GUY]

The Shorty 40 seen below is unique, as it was a display model used by S&W salesman to distributors, according to my letter of authenticity.

Surprisingly in that it has a black ambi safety/decocker. I'd be interested to know which of the of the @ 500 per 3 runs of @ 1,500 + it is. Mine came with a flashed chromed ambi but I think it was a replacement.

Is there anyway you could post a redacted partial image of your, (I'm assuming S&W,) letter? I only have something from Earl/LH. It would be interesting to see for comparison, maybe more information.

Jim

 

[Elkins45]

I have a semi-oddball. It's a 4043 that was owned by the Memphis Sheriff's Department. I made a 'placeholder' bid on GB and ended up being the winner for cheap. It's buried in the back of the safe so no photo. The DAO trigger isn't nearly as smooth as my 1086 but with the alloy frame the recoil is almost as snappy.

 

[Dino44]

Surprisingly in that it has a black ambi safety/decocker. I'd be interested to know which of the of the @ 500 per 3 runs of @ 1,500 + it is. Mine came with a flashed chromed ambi but I think it was a replacement.

Is there anyway you could post a redacted partial image of your, (I'm assuming S&W,) letter? I only have something from Earl/LH. It would be interesting to see for comparison, maybe more information.

Jim

I unfortunately don't have access to the S&W Letter at this time. I had a 3rd edition copy when I purchased that Shorty 40 in question. My serial number was not listed, so I requested the Letter. I now have a 4th edition and my serial number is still not listed. There is a Table of Lew Horton semi autos listed on PG 432 that give a more detailed look at the production breakdown of four groups of Shorty 40's. To the best of my recollection mine with serial # PCZ0313 was one of 12 used by S&W sales representatives. The left side of my slide has the words Performance Center, laser etched in black with the words stacked. Performance on top of Center.

 

[4T5GUY]

To the best of my recollection mine with serial # PCZ0313 was one of 12 used by S&W sales representatives. The left side of my slide has the words Performance Center, laser etched in black with the words stacked. Performance on top of Center.

Sorry to be such a PC compact geek but there are some really interesting things going on with your Shorty 40 but I think you know. The left side, (which would be cool to see,) being PC marked is unusual/not "normal" other than the PC Recon Billboards. The front cocking serrations are unusual/not "normal" other than the Recons also. (Unless you sent it to guzzi.) Is the ambi decock only too?

I see what you meant by your Shorty 40 being "unique." That it is.

*** Edit to add, I was slow to finally realize the PCZ prefix being different, special and important. ***

Jim

 

[reddog reddog]

.40 is the best! Will be most shooters go to caliber once the 9mm fan boy cobwebs clear.