Is the .45 GAP round dead?

[M&P777]

Did S&W or any other manufacturer besides Glock produce a gun in .45 GAP? Bud's online shop lists NIB Glock 37s (.45 GAP) for $379 delivered. It's not a bad price, but I haven't seen much about the .45 GAP since its introduction. Is it dead?

 

[Iggy]

I think maybe Springfield Armory produced one, but I wouldn't put any money on that.

 

[flagman1776]

I googled 45 GAP.
.45 GAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Glock
Springfield XD
ParaOrdinance

Unfortunately 45 GAP labors under the limitations of less cartridge space & less flexibility than 45 ACP. Articles note difficulty of equalling 45 ACP 230 grain perfomance. 45ACP+P is hotter.
Russ

 

[BruceM]

I always felt that the .45 GAP was a solution in search of a problem. Apparently, so does most of the gun buying public at this time.

Bruce

 

[Markcuda]

Is the .45 GAP round dead?

Yes.......

 

[Joni_Lynn]

If not dead then in serious need of CPR.
It appears to be the answer to the question no one ever asked.

 

[st regis]

The Georgia State Patrol traded their glock 22's for the full size 45 GAP, whatever that model number is. About 4 years ago. I remember when they went from the 4 inch 66 (required to keep factory wood on them) to the troopers choice of a 4506 or a 5906. Went to the Glocks after that.

 

[dennis40x]

New York State Police, Georgia State Patrol, Pennsylvania State Police, Florida Highway Patrol, and South Carolina Highway Patrol have adopted the 45GAP Apparently those organizations thought it was an answer to their requirements.

 

[Grayfox]

Dead, buried and almost forgotten. Another year or two and it'll be just a minor footnote in firearms history.
I never saw any use for it myself.

 

[KurtC]

Glock just gave away a boat load of them to the departments mentioned by dennis40x. Even if they only last a few years (till the next sweet deal), the LE ammo demands will keep the cartridge in production for at least that long.

 

[10mm Sonny]

Bud's online shop lists NIB Glock 37s (.45 GAP) for $379 delivered.

That's not a sale price, that's a closeout price.

 

[Walthernut]

New York State Police, Georgia State Patrol, Pennsylvania State Police, Florida Highway Patrol, and South Carolina Highway Patrol have adopted the 45GAP Apparently those organizations thought it was an answer to their requirements.

A P.A. Trooper told me that practice ammo was not available. I think the round will eventually fold up like the 5mm rimfire.

 

[jimmyj]

Hi:
Months ago when any ammo disappeared from dealers' shelves .357 sig and .45 gap could still be found.
Jimmy

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

I examined a GAP cartirdge on one occassion...

...and the first thing that came to my mind was that someone ressurected the old Webley self-loader cartridge and slapped a new name on it....why I don't know. Glocks are chambered in 45 ACP which is a much superior cartirdge...go figure.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Glock's answer to a problem John Browning never had in the first place.

 

[FirebirdV8]

I think 45 GAP was created because Glock didn't have any cartidges named after them like S&W or Colt.

 

[01deuce]

just like the .41 action express. Anybody remember that one? 45 gap will most likely have the same future.

 

[tinfinger]

(Sigh) The 45GAP puts 45ACP ballistics in a 9mm grip frame. That is its reason for being, and it does that. It is true that the 45ACP+P has better ballistics, but that is really beyond the intent of the 45GAP.

People gripe about the 45GAP mag capacity, but it is equal to or better than any 45ACP single stack. And as a double stack (more or less) tapered mag, it is easier to insert. 45ACP pistols with larger capacities tend to have bigger (usually much bigger) grip frames...and as the intent of the 45GAP is to keep the 9mm grip frame format, that is again outside the intent of the 45GAP.

The 45GAP is not popular among gun nuts, because most of us already have 45ACP's (who needs another caliber) and, if that includes big-ass double stacks, we have come to terms with that. If you are an LE administrator looking to issue hundreds of pistols or more, your frame of reference can be very different. 45ACP punch and capacity in a grip frame that already dominates, what, 70% of the LE market? And we are back to the 45GAP's reason for being. Further, not only will Glock give you that 9mm size grip frame with 45ACP punch, they can offer in in service, compact and supcompact sizes.

So it ends up being kind of a LE niche cartridge. Not that different from 357 Sig really.

 

[luis]

A department that traded their Glock 22s for the GAP when the GAP first came out is quietly returning to Glock 22s. Their civilan board was not happy that they were trading the 22s less than 18 months after they replaced Sigs.

 

[10mm Sonny]

I think 45 GAP was created because Glock didn't have any cartidges named after them like S&W or Colt.

Bullseye!

Notice how Glocks are marked .40 and not .40S&W