Is the ammo shortage ever going to end?
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Engieman
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Been saving my .22 brass...just as soon as I figure out how to reload those little suckers I'll be good to go. I wish....
Seldom
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The local Cabelas had a few bricks of Blazers, lots of fifty round CCI SV, Velocitors, Stingers and CB Shorts yesterday. There was a two box limit though. We bought the SVs. They were .10/rnd. For me, CCI SVs are the gold standard of .22lr ammo. Me happy.
Nice analysis and projections into the future...
I am thinking that if the Congress and the Senate return to the red that might put a freeze on gov't intrusions, but this is conflicted by an overly bold and possibly dictator want to be.
I am thinking that if the Congress and the Senate return to the red that might put a freeze on gov't intrusions, but this is conflicted by an overly bold and possibly dictator want to be.
reerc
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Seems like it would be a good time to be in the ammo manufacturing business. I wonder if the margins on .22LR are too slim for them? They could raise the price what, 50%? 100%? and still sell all they could make.
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I was in troy Il yesterday and stopped by a gun shop. Remington bulk packs that were repacked in zip lock bags for 7.95 per 50 with a limit of 1 per customer. What a joke.
Seldom
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If you want to see what an actual dictator is really like go to Wiki and do a search on Gaius Marius and Lucius Cornelius Sulla. Then do a side-by-side comparison with the guy on the Hill.
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I agree but I feel you left out all the rimfire shooting teams and training now. The Ruger Rimfire Challenge went so well it's become NSSF, Progect Appleseed seems to just keep growing, and my range is more and more crowded on the weekends with instructors giving training with rimfire to new shooters and there is a ton of new gun buyers out there these last few years. I don't think production has a hope of catching up as long as they keep thinking this is just a spike in the buying. I don't see .22LR being much more available for years now. I blame the M&P 15-22...
I agree but I feel you left out all the rimfire shooting teams and training now. The Ruger Rimfire Challenge went so well it's become NSSF, Progect Appleseed seems to just keep growing, and my range is more and more crowded on the weekends with instructors giving training with rimfire to new shooters and there is a ton of new gun buyers out there these last few years. I don't think production has a hope of catching up as long as they keep thinking this is just a spike in the buying. I don't see .22LR being much more available for years now. I blame the M&P 15-22...
You have brought up an important point that many overlook and that is the number of people shooting rimfire ammo is greater than the number who own guns. An example is my immediate family. My 2 sons and their wives and my 4 grandchildren along with myself shoot rimfire ammo. Only 2 of us own guns and grandma here is the one who supplies the rimfire ammo to be shot. That's 9 people shooting 22lr but only 2 gunowners in the family. When you take that into account then the situation is worse than initially thought.
Good question. Maybe it's fun somehow. I dunno as I have never done it.
Mcwsky09
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I would expect when the manufacturers and distributors get stocked on ammo inventory then powders should start to trickle in again too.
They KNOW that reloaders are hoarders .
Think about it - if there are 500,000 guys waiting on 8 lbs of Varget - then that is 4 Million pounds and that is just if they get 8 pounds . That could take a while to catch up since all their components are going to loaded ammo for a while.
But hopefully in six months or so . Primers had become available, brass was here and there, many bullets are creeping through , so powders should follow along . Hopefully .
Stopped at LGS the other day and stacks of primers - at about 5 cents each - and rifle powder - but no pistol powder at all.
I prefer to get primers on sale down around 3 cents each. Might have to start buying them but he 10,000 online to make the shipping and hazmat fees acceptable.
cyphertext
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I think it averages out, as my son and I have 10 .22lr guns. Obviously we can't shoot them all, and many have not been shot in awhile.
Moe Mentum
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Its just people panic buying..... I know people who buy .22's wherever they find them, and at any ridiculous price....not me. They can keep them. I bought a .22 air rifle, and shoot that instead of .22's much cheaper and just a much fun.
I haven't purchased a single round of .22LR or .22 Win Mag since November 2012. Can't find any online at a fair price and local stores only get the $80 to $100 per brick ELY or Remington Golden Bullet at $50-$60 per brick. Haven't seen a single box of any favorite ammo like Federal 510 40 grain or CCI Standard, so my wife and I don't shoot much .22 anymore, which sucks since we collect .22LR pistols, revolvers and rifles.
Is still have ammo, but you hate to blow away something you can't replace.
Is still have ammo, but you hate to blow away something you can't replace.
RV4driver
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I'm seeing a lot of the "russian" 7.62 available for really cheap prices online. Also I've been buying 9mm and .40 as well as .223/5.56 for way reasonable prices. If you're looking to buy a box, good luck. It's out there, but I buy in bulk with free shipping.
.22lr? again, good luck. It's hit or miss. I've been stocking up on the suppressor .22 lately, way fun in the suppressed .22.
Problem is, I shoot a LOT when I go to the range. So, while not hoarding, I buy what I can as I shoot a lot of it.
If you shoot a couple hundred a year, don't buy thousands, let some filter to the people that bought a new .22 gun and can't shoot it because you have it all.
My .02 cents.
.22lr? again, good luck. It's hit or miss. I've been stocking up on the suppressor .22 lately, way fun in the suppressed .22.
Problem is, I shoot a LOT when I go to the range. So, while not hoarding, I buy what I can as I shoot a lot of it.
If you shoot a couple hundred a year, don't buy thousands, let some filter to the people that bought a new .22 gun and can't shoot it because you have it all.
My .02 cents.
Sorry to put a damper on your "I shoot a LOT" suppressor fun but I choose to buy enough to shoot a couple hundred rounds a year and have enough saved back so I can do so for the next decade rather than leave it on the shelf for someone else who apparently has not read the tale of the ant and the grasshopper.
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No LGS's? Is WalMart your only option? If so, that's a doggone shame...
We have several GS hre but, not one of themI do go into--have any .22. Those like thepaceon Corona Street that I refuse togo into--ar the only ones outside of academy-who have .22. I cant get by Academy much these days as its one of thse special trip ou-of-the-way-places for me.Otherwise-id benabbing 100 or so rounds almost daily. Said GS on Corona Str, was the place that I was going to buy twobricks of .22 from last year because their WalMart and Academy price tags still on the boxes-said they were $19.95 and $21.95 respectively. So I took a $50 out of my wallet and told the guy I wanted two bricks of .22. He balked-gave a hedious laugh and said,they each were $180.00. I mentioned and pointed out the price those pricetags said they were being sold at.
I calmly replaced that $50 into my wallet and walked out the door never to look back.
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PS, I also dont have a money tree growing in my back yard so--im not able-nor willing--to pay way too much for that caliber ammo. Ill still buy .22 when I have an opportunity but, right now imcenteing on something else.
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I thought I had too much ammo put up at 4000 rounds of 22lr when SHTF. After I saw what was happening I started to buy it when ever I could. I would get 1000 here 500 there all or mostly at Walmart. I would not pay more than 8 cents a round. I now have 41000 rounds and I am not actively looking. If I run across some I will get it but I am almost rooting for non to be in stock when I go by. I can buy 223 Tula or 7.62 x 39 tula regularly at wally world and also 9mm is not all that crazy to see in Federal. Prices have went up a bit. I buy on line where I can get it cheaper now than Wally world. Picked up Wolf ammo 7.62 non corrosive shipped to me for 22 cents a round. I am still waiting for reloading components to come back in stock. I need 308s and powder but still have some left to get me by for a bit.
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The USPS is not "stockpiling" .357 hollow points or any other type of ammo.
They have a law enforcement branch...the Inspection Service, with several thousand employees...and its agents go armed a lot. Going armed means you have to train with various weapons, just like the FBI or the Secret Service. Consider the number of large post offices in every state and territory of the U.S. and the number of inspectors needed to investigate crimes, and you'll understand their need for a lot of ammo. Just like any other LEA, they have to have enough ammo on hand to accomplish their mission.
Oh, and letter carriers are not allowed to carry firearms. You get caught carrying on the job, and your career with the USPS is probably over. There aren't going to be any letter carriers shooting customers' dogs.
Wow! That's a lot of ammo. At the rate I consume .22LR (maybe 100/mo), that would last me about 30 years.
shil
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If I felt the need to shoot .22 like some of you folks seem to, I'd probably chuck all that and buy one of those pump air rifles that shoots .20 caliber pellets. 800 fps and whisper quiet without a Suppressor. No Draconian laws to worry about, no shortage of ammo and to all intent and purpose, the same weapon.
forestswin
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But where's the kaboom! There is supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom
Well, you can go: "Pew-pew-pew", can't you?
forestswin
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Well, you can go: "Pew-pew-pew", can't you?
Well no, an illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator goes KABOOM, you silly Smurf
RobertJ.
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Exactly!
I'm sure glad I don't have a 15-22, apparently those force you to shoot bricks at a time!
After the election of '08, I mentioned to my wife something about the shortage we were having. She asked me if I was stocking up, and I took that not only as permission, but instruction. With this latest shortage, out of my abundance I've been able to give ammo to my friends. I haven't stopped buying, BTW.
I recently added a .22 LR barrel to my Contender, and I've been shooting my other single shot .22's a little more than I used to. Just try shooting a brick in one afternoon with a single shot! I like to think it's helping me be a better marksman.
Smitty357
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I stopped shooting my .22lr and started shooting my .50 BMG more. Ammo is a lot cheaper.
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