Only if you're not being attacked . . .
Is the Slide fire going to be history?
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Only if you're not being attacked . . .
ChattanoogaPhil
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Theres an old saying. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. This is the inch that they shouldnt be given. Because you can rest assure they will go after the rest of the mile. Our great/grand parents gave an inch back in 1934. And now look what that inch has turned into. NEVER be willing to give an inch.
I say we make a deal with them. They want a slide fire and we want suppressors off the NFA list. We give them the slide fire. They give us suppressors. Oh but wait, they dont want to give. They only want to take.
I say we make a deal with them. They want a slide fire and we want suppressors off the NFA list. We give them the slide fire. They give us suppressors. Oh but wait, they dont want to give. They only want to take.
Westie1
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Interesting reading what everyone has to say. Out here, all of these devices have been banned for a number of years. In fact, the mere possession of any such device is illegal. You don't have to have it mounted or even own any firearm.
With a bump stock or slide stock there is no accuracy what so ever. It's works fine for just the type of thing it was used for. Large crowd standing next to each other, unable to defend them selves. You don't need any accuracy there. For defense, your better off with a semi auto with trigger control and a sight picture.
Unfortunately we are flooded with terrorists and gang members in this country now. I don't know if well be able to change that back to what it was.
I'm not saying ban them, but maybe regulate them.
Unfortunately we are flooded with terrorists and gang members in this country now. I don't know if well be able to change that back to what it was.
I'm not saying ban them, but maybe regulate them.
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It isn't a cave in at all. The NRA is simply throwing out a red herring in an attempt (perhaps ill-advised) to distract and turn attention away from what could be more restrictive gun laws.
Pay an annual NFA tax for a relatively cheap plastic part that isn't good for much else except wasting ammo and money? It'd be a cold day in a very hot place before I'd do that.
As an aside, the panic began Monday, and prices on bump stocks/slide fire stocks have doubled since then. Dealers and manufacturers who sell them are out of stock. One well known dealer has stopped taking orders so that existing orders can be filled.
It's ironic that the majority of hunters, shooters, and just regular ol' gun owners never even wanted one of the things, but once it's started to look as if they might be restricted, people are lining up trying to get one. Sound familiar?
LGSs here never even sold them to start with. One owner of a large LGS stated he considered them to be nothing but dangerous toys for Rambo wannabes, and never stocked them.
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My mistake. My fingers outran my brain.
But still...pay a tax on one? And let the BATFE know I have one? Nope, not me. That'd be your choice. Be my guest.
Absalom
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Indeed. What some folks here are billing a "cave-in", mainstream media are starting to play as a devious plot by the NRA to prevent Congress from even taking up new gun control legislation.
An example here:
The NRA's strategic ploy on bump stocks - CNNPolitics
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Pedantic! I like that. Can't remember the last time I heard that term used in conversation. Bravo.
LVSteve
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Does this " obsolescence " also apply to that old Constitution?
Just because a bunch of people have been wrong about something for a while does not change it to being right.
I need to emphasize that I'm NOT referring to our Constitution in that last sentence.
They got it right!
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Chief Illiniwek
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I was just looking at GunBroker and got an alert saying they've made the decision to no longer allow bump stocks (and similar) to be sold on the site. They're asking that all active auctions/sales be removed and expired listings not be relisted.
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vonn
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When the government regulates anything it makes it easier for them to regulate the next thing on their list. It is hard to regain lost freedoms. The mentally unbalanced mass killers will never be easy to spot or stop and will use whatever means available to meet their objectives of committing horrific acts.
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Right. And how many times have we heard NRA leadership say more gun regulations isn't the answer.
Yet, here's the NRA effectively saying that more gun regulations is the answer. This is WAY more than a simple cave-in. This is NRA advocacy of more federal gun regulation.
“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” NRA leaders Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox said in a statement.
How would "restricting" these stocks have prevented the mass shooting in Las Vegas? The guy could have just paid the NFA fee to get one. It appears he could have passed to background check to get one.
If they are totally banned, he could have illegally converted his guns to fully automatic. If you are planning to murder, breaking another law would not be much of a moral dilemma. Or he could have legally purchased a machine gun.
What new laws would have prevented this guy from doing what he did? Hmmmmmm????
If they are totally banned, he could have illegally converted his guns to fully automatic. If you are planning to murder, breaking another law would not be much of a moral dilemma. Or he could have legally purchased a machine gun.
What new laws would have prevented this guy from doing what he did? Hmmmmmm????
keith44spl
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With this horrific shooting in LV, one madman has caused
the world to demonize a piece of plastic equipment.
We all know it's not what's in a man's hands...but what's in his heart that counts.
Evil respects no law....Not man's laws nor God's laws.
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the world to demonize a piece of plastic equipment.
We all know it's not what's in a man's hands...but what's in his heart that counts.
Evil respects no law....Not man's laws nor God's laws.
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It appears the NRA, and the majority party, is willing to throw out a bone, as some describe it, in the false hope that the rabid dogs won't be back for the whole leg.
What next are you willing to toss to the gathering pack?
How about a GOA and SAF badge on this forum?
What next are you willing to toss to the gathering pack?
How about a GOA and SAF badge on this forum?
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Folks, this may not be fashionable, but I feel that I must contribute my two cents. This is currently a very hot topic, and no matter which side of the fence you take, someone will find fault.
I am a target shooter, raised in the school of making each and every shot count. As such, I have never had a need for a bump-fire type device. I respect the right of others to throw up a wall of lead and miss the target, they'll just be out of ammo before me.
Personally, I don't believe that the NRA requesting a BATFE review of the bump fire stock is a cave-in. I don't believe that it is the start of the end. What I do believe is that it can draw attention away from a move to ban the AR platforms.
I am a target shooter, raised in the school of making each and every shot count. As such, I have never had a need for a bump-fire type device. I respect the right of others to throw up a wall of lead and miss the target, they'll just be out of ammo before me.
Personally, I don't believe that the NRA requesting a BATFE review of the bump fire stock is a cave-in. I don't believe that it is the start of the end. What I do believe is that it can draw attention away from a move to ban the AR platforms.
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But this isn't just a suggestion for a review. This is gun regulation advocacy.
“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” NRA leaders Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox said in a statement.
BigBill
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If your being attacked why waste that much ammo? Isn't the semi auto fast enough. While under attack we need to conserve ammo. (Like our country was under attack) just saying.
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