It's probably just me...

Some lots are more annoying than others, when I lived in Denver and had my 2000 tundra I'd never be parking at the trader joes or similar, was just the cost of doing business.

I think a lot of it is that none of this stuff was designed around everyone driving around much larger vehicles. In addition to every car getting larger (the current Tundra is massive compared to my 2000, my current outback is massive compared to my 98) I remember 20-30 years ago sedans being the go-to for most anyone that didn't need a truck, with trucks being more of a working vehicle (there were exceptions of course). Now the company IT guy drives an F350 that has never seen anything more than golf clubs in the bed, my dentist has a lifted suburban, etc., and a lot of the city or old construction infrastructure has not been updated to accommodate that change. Crummy parking options was always just kinda "cost of doing business" when I had a truck/we had to use one of the farm trucks, and that was selling point for the tiny Japanese trucks like the 80s Nissan we had forever.
 
One of my joys, NOT, was being assigned to layout the parking grid to maximize the number of parking and handicap space and delivery area for an office building.
Spent about 2 weeks full time with this before the company hired a real engineer to do the deed.
The professional did the job but it was a mess; you couldn't drive within the lanes, spaces were too small for a real car and the handicap spots were about double the standard size. The delivery trucks didn't care, they just parked wherever they pleased. However - it met code, the city approved the plan and the architecture firm was paid.
Then the fun really began. The exec's, managers and 'important people' started jockeying for assigned space and complaining about getting their precious MB, BMW and new cars dinged or scratched. Nobody was happy.
 
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The number of parking spaces may be required by local building codes.

The inner portion of roundabouts (circles) contain a mountable curb to permit articulated vehicles to trasverse the circle. Else they would need "40 acres to turn this rig around".

Double "H" wishbones are constructed to avoid left turn phases or prevent left turns across oncoming traffic.

One would think businesses whose primary customers would be using pickup or larger trucks would have an area for those vehicles. But then, people with 'itty bitty' cars would park there thinking how much extra room they had.

A golf course near me had signs designating spaces for compact cars. This was back in the 80's well before the massive desire for large suvs. Was it enforced by the golf course? I doubt it.
 
I look at the acreage that malls are built on. I then look at the amount of cars parked there on any given day. Talk about a waste of space!! Only time the lots are packed is after Thanksgiving until Xmas. You could build a 3-4 story parking garage taking up much less space.

Not on the same topic but many malls have lost their anchor store as well as other well known brands due to crime and the economy. Around here the deserted anchor store has been replaced by places like Planet Fitness but still does nothing for the future of the mall in general. Maybe it's time to rethink how people shop.

Malls were designed like your local supermarket with the idea that people would shop at multiple places to fill all their needs in one place. Sorry but buying shoes,clothing or nonnecessities isn't the same as shopping for food on a weekly basis.

Sorry for wandering.
 
Compact Car Parking EARLY 60s - at University of Illinois

A golf course near me had signs designating spaces for compact cars. This was back in the 80's well before the massive desire for large suvs. Was it enforced by the golf course? I doubt it.

Remember DESIGNATED and SIGNED
Compact Car Parking EARLY 60s - at University of Illinois Champaign / Urbana

Compact cars were compact. Falcon / Corvair / Valiant

Bekeart
 
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Back to the original topic. The size of our vehicles is cyclical based on need and even gas prices.

Going back to the 50's and 60's people wanted big vehicles. Just look at Cadillacs and Chryslers. Of course our families were much bigger back then but a bigger car was also a status symbol as well. Along comes the oil crisis and car manufacturers starting thinking fuel efficient smaller vehicles. This was also due to Gov't mandates but as technology advanced we saw a trend going back to bigger vehicles. Bigger vehicles are safer in an accident for the most part. They provide better visibility of ones surroundings. Of course there are still drivers out there that can't navigate the roads safely in any vehicle.

Drive what you want or what you feel you need but share the road and stay safe.
 
I rarely go to malls, but back when I did I discovered a way to find parking. If the mall is linear, go to the stores at the very ends of the mall. One end may be better than the other, but you generally find parking.

Most people avoid parking there because it's a long walk to stores they might want to visit. Yeah, my ex used to whine about the walk.
 
I've had my 2006 F-150 since it was brand new so why am I waiting until now to post this? No clue but read on.

So I go to the supermarket and look for a spot close to the front because of a bad knee. Second choice is a spot where I can open the doors wide enough to get in and out and put the groceries in.

Problem is that I'm driving a truck that is almost as wide as the average parking spot and trying to open doors that are almost 3' in width allowing me to get in and out without damage to my truck or the vehicle next to me. Sure would be nice if trucks came with gull wing doors as an option.

You say you park in your garage. Sorry,my thread so not my problem. :D

I, too, have a 2006 F150 and 2 bad knees to boot, so I feel your pain!

Go to your orthopedic surgeon and see if he will authorize a handicap parking permit for you. If your knees are that bad it shouldn't be a problem! Then you can park in the handicap spaces that give you plenty of width to open the doors. There are several conditions other than a physical disability that would qualify you for a handicap plate or placard.

So, what conditions qualify for disabled parking in Colorado? A person will qualify if they are disabled in one or more of the following ways:

  • They cannot walk 200 feet without needing to stop to rest.
  • They cannot walk without the use of an assistive device such as a crutch, cane, brace, prosthetic device, wheelchair, or another person.
  • They are restricted by lung disease to such an extent that their forced (respiratory) expiratory volume for one second, when measured by spirometry, is less than one liter, or the arterial oxygen tension is less than sixty mm/hg on room air or at rest.
  • They use portable oxygen.
  • They have a cardiac condition that is classified as Class III or IV by the American Heart Association.
  • They have a severely limited ability to walk due to an arthritic, neurological, or orthopedic condition.

coltle6920, definitely do this! I got my handicapped placard when I had cancer, in addition to the bad knees, in 2017. I just got my new one yesterday. I don't use it every time I park, but I do use it when I need it. It is closer to the stores, and wide enough to be able to get in and out of my truck without dinging another vehicle or getting mine dinged.

My pet peeve about truck doors is the clamshell style on my Tacoma. The rear doors are hinged at the back. At first glance, it seems good to have wide open access. But if you're fairly close to a wall or something, just try and get something in the back. You have to get it past the front or rear door, then open the other door. You find you're stuck between the front and rear doors with whatever you're trying to load. Trapped!! Still, I don't want a crew cab Tacoma. Backseat might be usable but the box isn't. Compromises....

My 2006 F150 has the same issue. If you park in a regular parking spot it is darned near impossible to put groceries in the backseat from a cart. You basically have to leave your cart at the front or back of your truck, and carry one bag of groceries at a time, because your other hand needs to be free to gently move the first door of your truck out of the way so you can get by it, to reach the back seat. Hopefully this makes sense. It will to those that have to do it on a regular basis. Again, this is where the handicapped placard comes in handy.

I look at the acreage that malls are built on. I then look at the amount of cars parked there on any given day. Talk about a waste of space!! Only time the lots are packed is after Thanksgiving until Xmas. You could build a 3-4 story parking garage taking up much less space.

About 2 weeks ago, I had to go to the local county tax collector's. It just so happens that this place is kinda like you describe above. It was in a HUGE one story building that literally took up acres. It had hundreds and hundreds of parking spaces that also took up acres. This complex is in the downtown business district, and the power's that be got wise:rolleyes: and decided that it would be a great opportunity to make some money by tearing down the old building, and building a new modern glass multistory building with a multistory parking garage too. This was the first time I've had to grace the doors of the new place. When I entered the eight story parking garage, of which only 2 stories were in use at this point, I drove around and around for 25 minutes trying to find an empty spot. NO spots were open, including the handicapped spots. When I finally found someone pulling out, I slowly pulled into the space. When I left myself enough room to open the driver's door, I was much closer than I liked to the vehicle on the passenger side, but I was within the parking lines. All I could do was hope that I got finished with my business before they did. As I got out of my truck and walked towards the rear, I noticed that it was sticking out into "traffic". I walked to the front of my truck and saw that I was about 2 inches from the concrete wall of the building so I couldn't pull forward any more! ALL the spaces appeared to be designed for compact cars! Luckily, I did finish my business before the person parked on my passenger side.

Basically, city planners are designing ALL the parking spaces for what they hope/want to happen soon, which is only for compact electric vehicles!!:mad: But the city will soon have a ton of money in it's coffers from the sale of the acreage generated by tearing down the old building and tearing up the old huge parking lot. I know they will use it wisely……NOT!
Larry
 
Talk about doors!

I had an '83 Buick La Sabre two-door.

You had to park in a football-field to completely swing the doors open.

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I'm on the town planning commission and help to review surveys and site plans. Our town requires parking spaces to be at least 10 feet wide by 20 feet long.

I want to think that's a disguised bit of humor on your part or maybe the towns people are really just bad at parking?

After second thought,given your location, 10x20 feet would accommodate most Amish horse and carriage.
 
I'm on the town planning commission and help to review surveys and site plans. Our town requires parking spaces to be at least 10 feet wide by 20 feet long.

QUOTE=coltle6920;141920003]I want to think that's a disguised bit of humor on your part or maybe the towns people are really just bad at parking?

After second thought, given your location, 10x20 feet would accommodate most Amish horse and carriage.[/QUOTE]

No joke, it's the real deal.

Believe it or not, we do have an Amish family that comes into town by buggy.
 
Amish?

QUOTE=coltle6920;141920003]I want to think that's a disguised bit of humor on your part or maybe the towns people are really just bad at parking?

After second thought, given your location, 10x20 feet would accommodate most Amish horse and carriage.

No joke, it's the real deal.

Believe it or not, we do have an Amish family that comes into town by buggy.[/QUOTE]

Gull-wing buggy?:D
 
Handicapped placards are a good idea. However here, as in other metro areas, handicapped parking spots are often of the hen's teeth varieties as they are seldom available because of both the limited number and abusers.
 

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