J frame pic thread

I am still learning about the J-frames, so I am interested to learn more about your contention about a "true" J-frame. Please expand.
I should preface my response with the caveat that all Chiefs Specials are "J-frames," and the model pre-dates the Centennial. My opinion wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.

My opinion comes from the fact that the Centennial was a modern J-frame from its inception.
 
I should preface my response with the caveat that all Chiefs Specials are "J-frames," and the model pre-dates the Centennial. My opinion wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.

My opinion comes from the fact that the Centennial was a modern J-frame from its inception.

The early "Chief's Specials" were not the same as the later Chief's! When this gun was introduced it was on the I frame with a larger cylinder and cylinder window, not a true I frame or true J frame! We collectors refer to these guns as the "Baby Chief's Special".

You are correct about the Centennials, along with a few other models in the J frame guns. A few that come to mind, along with their pre models, are the 37 - 38 - 43 - 49 - 51 - and their many stainless-steel cousins of more modern manufacture!
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I should preface my response with the caveat that all Chiefs Specials are "J-frames," and the model pre-dates the Centennial. My opinion wouldn't stand up to legal scrutiny.

My opinion comes from the fact that the Centennial was a modern J-frame from its inception.

Thank you for the clarification.
I agree that all Chiefs Special models are J-frames.
Here is what I have garnered over the last few years:
The earlier ones (the Baby Chiefs) are a bit smaller than the ones that followed, but none-the-less, still J-frames. S&W took the I-frame and lengthened the cylinder and widened the cylinder window to accept the .38 S&W Special cartridge. With that 'stretch' of the I-frame cylinder window they created the J-frame. A few short years later modifications to the J-frame were implemented, including lengthening the grip frame, eliminating the screw at the trigger guard (now a four-screw), and enlarging the trigger guard to more of an egg shape. (Some call those changes "The Model of 1953.") The frame 'size' after those changes eventually, and after the loss of the top sideplate screw (making it a three-screw), became the Chiefs Special Model 36. That is the evolution of the carbon steel Chiefs Special as I have learned it (and a very short version as well). There are a few twists and turns when we add in the alloy frame Chiefs Special models, but they were all J-frames as well.
 
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Titanium cylinder & aluminum crane from a 360PD + walnut panels, net weight empty 11.2oz

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I'm in, my circa 1982 Mod. 36 with Centennial grips.
And my new 642-1 Perf. Ctn. with Altamont grips.
 

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Here are a few you don't see every day.

Model 36-7, Lady Smith, the last 2" carbon steel frame with forged
parts, new ⅛" wide front sight.

Model 36-8, the last 3" Heavy Barrel of the 20th Century on a carbon
steel frame, forged parts, ⅛" wide front sight.

Model 36-9, the first carbon steel Chiefs Special on the new
J-magnum frame, MIM parts, new beveled thumbpiece, .38 Special.
 

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