J Frame Rimfire Trigger spring kits

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Has anyone had experience with the Wilson Combat Custom-Tune spring kit #321 in rimfire J Frames? I need to reduce the double action trigger pull in my 351PD.
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Bruce002
 
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My experience is that lighter springs are not a good combination with rimfires. Centerfires seems to get by with lighter springs and still give 100% ignition.

The rimfires have to crushed the cartridge rim and you generally shoot more rounds, leading to more crude build up in the chambers.


Charlie
 
crsides said:
My experience is that lighter springs are not a good combination with rimfires. Centerfires seems to get by with lighter springs and still give 100% ignition.

The rimfires have to crushed the cartridge rim and you generally shoot more rounds, leading to more crude build up in the chambers.


Charlie
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The only spring that affects hammer force is the hammer spring.
The rebound spring only affects the trigger/hammer group.

REAL light rebound springs have been known to cause hangups in the clockwork when firing fast double action shooting.

Other then that slight probability (which usually the next heavier spring will fix) It only affects the trigger pull weight. And is easily swapped.
 
This is going to be a carry gun for a woman. Please No comments on rim fire for self defense
 
this will be a carry gun for a woman who does not tolerate recoil. Thanks for the link to the wolff springs. Have you had any experience with the wilson rebound springs?
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Bruce002
 
Bruce002 said:
Have you had any experience with the wilson rebound springs?
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Yes. They're lighter. If you're comfortable pulling the sidecover and changing springs just try them and see which weight she likes/can use. There is usually no one spring everyone will like. Part of the reason is that many shooters don't get their finger off the trigger so the trigger can return quickly/easily but rely on the rebound spring to push their finger forward.
 
I get all my springs from Wolff. They make most springs for other companies that sell them under a different name. With the Wolff spring kit you get several rebound springs. As mentioned it will no change the ignition.

The main spring or hammer spring is only 1/2 lb lighter so chances are it will not cause a problem. Try it and see. If it does just put the original back in.
 
I will definately post my results on what brand and weight of spring I use. I agree with shovelwrench and the others who say to only change the rebound spring(trigger spring) and don't mess with the hammer spring.
I really appreciate the responces and advise.
Thanks
 
I put a Wolff spring kit in one of my old model 36's, trigger pull is pretty nice now. I own several other j-frames whose triggers could also stand some improvement, so I went to order more Wolff kits from Midway but they're out of stock until approx 10/17/12. I thought about buying Wilson kits, in stock & about the same price and possibly even the same springs, but I know the Wolff kits work so I think I'll probably just wait-- (hopefully) it'll only be a week or two. Might as well be consistant & have the same parts in all of them (two other old 36's and soon an old model 60).
 
Wolff springs

Hi Bruce,

I have the S&W 351C & 351PD.

I tuned the action on my wife's 351C and installed the Wolff 9 lb. Mainspring and Wolff 14 lb. Rebound spring. With this combination, the trigger pull measured 12 lbs. and the pull was much improved.

The firearm was tested with CCI, Hornady, Speer, and Remington ammo and all performed flawlessly.

You will be very satisfied with their products. The tuning of the action included lightly polishing all contact surfaces inside using a Norton Hard Arkansas stone.

Good luck,
Doc
 
Is there a site that precisely show which areas to lightly stone , I have been wanting to try this but I'm just not positive which area to tackle .
 
Google "yoda trigger job" & you should be able to come up with a youtube video done by a guy named nutnfancy of a professional gunsmith doing a trigger job on a j-frame. The video is like half a hour long, but worth it. Unfortunately when the gunsmith is stoning the trigger & hammer surfaces, his hands are in the way of the camera and nutnfancy-boy is running his mouth instead of letting the 'smith describe what he's doing. But overall it's a pretty good how-to.
 
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I have a model 36 pistol in 38+p. I do not intend to use +p as I am going to use it for IDPA and my carry pistol. I have not worked on a wheel gun before and don't know what is required. Have read all the posts on lighting the trigger and that is what I would like to do. The trigger pull is smooth but alot harder than my glock 17,which is to light for anything but competion. If anyone has experience with this model of pistol and could inform me of what changes they made and spring rates they used and their end results it would be greatly appreciated.I may be duplicating questions and if so just humor me.
 
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I bought a Wolff spring kit which comes with a 8# hammer spring (stock is 8.5# per Wolff) and three rebound (trigger return) springs- 13, 14, & 15# (stock is 18# per Wolff). I used the 13# rebound spring & the 8# hammer spring in my old model 36 & it came out awesome. I just ordered some more springs for my other j-frames. After giving some thought, I'm not sure the 1/2 pound reduction in the wolff hammer spring is worth dinking with-- I think the lighter rebound spring provided the lion's share of the improvement, so I bought a three-pack of Wolff 13# rebound springs from Midway to install in the others. You can also buy direct from Wolff, both single springs, 3-packs, & kits.
 
Dennis9 said:
I have a model 36 pistol in 38+p. I do not intend to use +p as I am going to use it for IDPA and my carry pistol. I have not worked on a wheel gun before and don't know what is required. Have read all the posts on lighting the trigger and that is what I would like to do. The trigger pull is smooth but alot harder than my glock 17,which is to light for anything but competion. If anyone has experience with this model of pistol and could inform me of what changes they made and spring rates they used and their end results it would be greatly appreciated.I may be duplicating questions and if so just humor me.
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Buy one or more of the AGI videos. The Jerry Miculek Trigger job video is also go for the larger frame guns. It's kinda long and I nod off listening to him.:)

Gun Video Trigger Job: Complete Action Tuning Smith Wesson Revolvers

American Gunsmithingstitute (AGI) Technical Manual & Armorer's Course
 
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