John Wicks Shooting Style - C.A.R System

[RobzGuns]

There's a whole series of John Wick training videos with Reeves and Barry practicing this method, with live rounds. It seems to work.

If I can find the videos, I'll post a link.

 

[Imissedagain]

My music lyrics ain't so good looking so please join in and write a tune for J Wick.

When the slide hits your eye
like a big pizza pie,
that's amore.

When your eye seems to shine
like some cheap Chianti wine,
that's amore.

Bells will ring, ting-a-ling-a-ling

NEXT batter up

 

[Birdhunter6]

A friend took a C.A.R. class last year. I was offered a spot in the class but chose not to participate. (More a $$ decision than being resistant to a new technique.) I noticed it looks very similar to something I was taught 20 years ago as a way to transition from Isosceles to engage a threat from the rear on the support side.

My understanding is that it's a technique primarily intended as a carjacking defense or other extreme close quarters situations.

My friend said that he learned some things and has a few more tools in his tool box now, but did state that his daughter and sil got more from the class than he did.

All that muscle memory we have worked years to develop works against us when we try something new.

 

[crstrode]

This stance works for me.

Wick is a weenie.

 

[upcountry]

I've heard it said, and I tried it on some IDPA targets, that a cant may be beneficial in some situations. Typical 2 hand hold may block out your view of a person's hands if held at center mass, in close quarters. Some police body cam footage shows canted positions at times.
Thoughts?

 

[Mule Packer]

All that muscle memory we have worked years to develop works against us when we try something new.

I'm going to have to agree with Birdhunter6 and BE Mike on this one. Oh sure, so-called "new and improved" stances will continually be presented. Some might actually be an improvement, while others are nothing more than a hip fad. (See below.)

Seriously, though, bottom line is what works best for each of us individually. Maybe our form isn't the greatest, but, if it works for us, why change?

I'm reminded of the great Dodger pitcher Don Drysdale. Drysdale, if you'll remember, was famous for his wicked side-arm pitch. One of my former associates had the opportunity of batting against Drysdale. To quote my friend, "That side-arm ball looked like it was coming around to hit you in the back of the head, then, at the last minute, it came right across the plate." Unorthodox? Maybe. But it worked for Drysdale.

So, yeah...maybe my "improved Isosceles" stance isn't anything to "write home about," but it works for me, so I probably won't be experimenting with the C.A.R. system in the foreseeable future.

 

[Biggfoot44]

As Spdguns mentioned , this isn't new , it's been around a looong time . I might even had still had some hair .

To be generous , it might be useful for certain very specific situiations , but as a general approach , not so much .

Weaver isn't " dead " , nor not viable .

Back in the day , when Weaver was dominant , I was outspoken about the merits of properly done Isosceles . Isosceles is my default stance to teach .

But * for me * , in rapid shooting , I get more precise hits at same speed with the Chapman subvariant of the Weaver .

 

[Birdhunter6]

Yes, that's right, that modified Weaver was called Chapman! I remember now.

Also, tipping grip in as when throwing a punch for one handed shooting was called 'The Chapman Cant'. I couldn't remember the name, but when I punch out to shoot a one hand string I sure remember the technique!

I've paid for a lot of instruction over the years and have always learn something that I was able to use.