Just curious if anyone here who partcipated in the spare magazine thread has rethought it after LA riots.

[biku324]

What’s “woke speak”?

Anything you don't want to hear.

 

[Wickerboots]

Anything you don't want to hear.

Sounds more like a vague inability/failure to communicate, to use divisive buzz words. Usually people who lower themselves to those levels don’t like hearing/reading anything outside of their echo chambers.

 

[Jon651]

Nothing to see here, these are peaceful protests, damn it! lol
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This is exactly the type of click-bait sensationalism that I've been seeing. This picture shows 3 of the 5 Waymo self-driving cars that were burned on the first day, but some in the media (and certainly many online) want you to believe this is happening every day, everywhere in LA, and is coming to a drive-in theater near you...

What they DON'T tell you:
* No cars have been burned since
* No buildings have been burned
* Nobody is saying this is not a crime
* The VAST majority of people involved in the demonstrations are NOT rioters or criminals, and are NOT rioting or criming

But if you watch certain "news" sources they act like this is the only thing happening, it is getting worse by the minute, and you need to be very, very afraid. Sorry, but I refuse to succumb. I also refuse to let these idiots in the picture have a free pass at any time for any reason.

 

[Sal1950]

It's difficult because with large or even huge groups of people you will have large or huge variations in their actions and motivations. A completely homogenous group, all motivated by the same thing taking the same actions toward the same goal, is rare. Punishing those protesting legally identically with those attacking police or damaging property is unConstitutional. That last is law, not opinion.

My opinion is that such is also un-American.

I can easily see the difference with my own eyes between a protest sign, and a LE being physically attacked, or a Molotov cocktail thrown.
The lines aren't that blurry.

 

[biku324]

I can easily see the difference with my own eyes between a protest sign, and a LE being physically attacked, or a Molotov cocktail thrown.
The lines aren't that blurry.

Unless you are there, you are only seeing what video editors at news agencies determine to be newsworthy. 'If it bleeds, it leads.'

 

[Onomea]

Re what we see on the news, social media research shows that items that generate outrage generate eyeballs and clicks. Hence they receive disproportionate emphasis.

Man bites dog, and all that.

 

[Smoke]

I'm adequately armed, avoid trouble/places, situationally aware. Better off than 95% of folks who have "zero defensive plans." Joe

You're also better off than people who think they can go to trouble spots because they're armed

 

[Wickerboots]

I can easily see the difference with my own eyes between a protest sign, and a LE being physically attacked, or a Molotov cocktail thrown.
The lines aren't that blurry.

What did that Australian reporter do to justify the rubber bullet?

Would any protester with their carry gun also be assumed a rioter by your standards? On the original question of this thread, what if a protester has a reload or two just because? Are they more guilty now of something?

 

[joseywales44]

What makes a protester a "bad guy". You know it is covered under the Constitution and all of that jazz.

Watts was a riot. The destruction after Rodney King was a riot. This sir is no riot.

But I carry a spare magazine as stated above due to malfunctions and the like so your question doesn't apply.

Perhaps if you were in the midst of it, your perception of the situation might be different!

 

[ladder13]

I can easily see the difference with my own eyes between a protest sign, and a LE being physically attacked, or a Molotov cocktail thrown.
The lines aren't that blurry.

Just more of the denial we’ve experienced recently. Don’t believe what you see.

 

[Sal1950]

Unless you are there, you are only seeing what video editors at news agencies determine to be newsworthy. 'If it bleeds, it leads.'

So what's your point, sure the editors show you what they want you to see, BUT
What they show is either illegal or not.
If illegal it should be suppressed.

Would any protester with their carry gun also be assumed a rioter by your standards? On the original question of this thread, what if a protester has a reload or two just because? Are they more guilty now of something?

Concealed carry is concealed. DUH
If they take it out and point it at someone, time to take appropriate action.

 

[biku324]

And LAPD is making arrests.

 

[BabaBlueJay]

No.

1.) I have friends in LA and it's small pockets of a massive city that are easily avoided. A friend of mine has even mocked it walking through a tranquil West LA filming how unruly it is in a sarcastic tone. The media on both sides have an active Interest in making stories go viral and sensationalism sells.

2.) Even if there were riots in my neighborhood (which there are not) there are ways to get around without having to be in a shootout.

If you feel you need an extra mag, by all means do it, but I am not going to let this recent event change my carry method whatsoever. If I need an extra mag, then I should probably have a long gun on me and some plates not another mag of pistol caliber ammo.

 

[Wickerboots]

So what's your point, sure the editors show you what they want you to see, BUT
What they show is either illegal or not.
If illegal it should be suppressed.


Concealed carry is concealed. DUH
If they take it out and point it at someone, time to take appropriate action.

I never said anything about taking it out. But if it’s physically on them and rioters are within proximity of protesters and a protester is apprehended their concealed carry probably won’t be left on them.

 

[Sal1950]

Just more of the denial we’ve experienced recently. Don’t believe what you see.

OH YEA RIGHT,
It' a conspiracy of photo-shopped actions that never happened.
If that was true it would be revealed within hours.

And LAPD is making arrests.

Too few, too late.
JMHO

 

[ladder13]

What did that Australian reporter do to justify the rubber bullet?

OH YEA RIGHT,
It' a conspiracy of photo-shopped actions that never happened.
If that was true it would be revealed within hours.


Too few, too late.
JMHO

Would any protester with their carry gun also be assumed a rioter by your standards? On the original question of this thread, what if a protester has a reload or two just because? Are they more guilty now of something?

I wonder what store owners did to get looted. And why the hell burn Waymo? Exactly what did they do?

 

[Wickerboots]

OH YEA RIGHT,
It' a conspiracy of photo-shopped actions that never happened.
If that was true it would be revealed within hours.


Too few, too late.
JMHO

Do you have any stats on the bad actors in uniform being arrested as well or are you saying those you don’t agree with need punished?

 

[Wickerboots]

I wonder what store owners did to get looted.

Are you a bot or just trying to avoid questions asked to substitute your own?

You are aware protesters are not rioters?

 

[Fiddler1537]

NOBODY is saying that any of those acts are legal or justified or anything like that. It is agreed that people who do these things are criminals and rioters and the full weight of the law should be brought down on them like the wrath of a ticked-off deity.

What the folks who are seeing it with their own eyes (and those who are getting their info from a broader set of sources) are saying is that it is not nearly as common, widespread or violent as some in the national media want you to believe - most likely for their own purposes. And at best it is only a pale shadow of the violent riots that have happened before in this exact same city. The mass marches down the street? Not a riot. The speeches and prayer vigils in the parks? Not a riot. The holding hands and singing? Not a riot. And Yes, the yelling at the police and the ICE agents? Not a riot - and ALL of it protected by the US Constitution's First Amendment.

I'll repeat what I posted earlier: Too many folks are losing their ability to differentiate between "protester" and "rioter" - and I fear it is because of nothing more than politics.

While your points may be well taken, I might postulate that the added force on the ground could be beneficial in preventing escalation of violence. I wonder how the summer of 2020 would have gone if there had more law enforcement presence, especially in Minnesota.
Of course then the Governor's wife wouldn't have been been able to bask in the smell of burning tires.

 

[ladder13]

Are you a bot or just trying to avoid questions asked to substitute your own?

You are aware protesters are not rioters?

I’ve been here a lot longer than you, maybe I should be asking the question. That will be my last response to just another forum troll.