Just curious if anyone here who partcipated in the spare magazine thread has rethought it after LA riots.

[Gryff]

I do not carry a spare mag, nor do the protests change that policy for general everyday carry. IF I was going into an area with a likelihood of encountering protestors, then I would carry one. But 99.9% of the places I go do not warrant an extra mag.

That's aside from the point that if 11 rounds of ammo aren't going to resolve the issue, I'm not so sure that 21 are going to make that much of a difference.

 

[Dave Haynes]

It makes no sense when some appointed politically motivated lower court judge can stop the Federal Government in its tracks. Word salad explaining why a riot is not a riot is exactly why we are in our present situation. This is why we are supposed to believe men can get pregnant. Dozens of destroyed abandoned police vehicles on freeways with the windshields smashed by 10 lb chunks of torn up sidewalks, burned out hulks of city and private vehicles and looted stores sure looks and smells like anarchy to me. The LA police are preaching the no riot party line because they will be fired if they don't. Just like the ex-fire chief who was dismissed after telling the truth about what made the burning of the city into the most disastrous fire in US history and SURPRISE! an opportunity for "LA 2.0". The state is $73B in debt, Newsom and the state government have painted themselves into a corner they can't get out of (They pass between 800-900 new laws each year: who's paying for them?). The state is a train wreck...

 

[biku324]

None of that damage was described to the Court by DOJ, and it is certainly in their interest to do so.

The 9th USCA has it now - we'll see what they do. I do know from the decision so far that the Feds did not comply with the law requiring coordination with the governor on Guard deployments. In my prior life we had a system for contacting the Governor after hours if we needed Guard resources. Not the TAG. Not the AG; the Governor or, in his/her absence, the Lt. Gov. In person.

New Mexico has had the Guard deployed by the Gov to assist Albuquerque PD for several days with absolutely no problems.

 

[ladder13]

Anyone who considers themselves above the law, above the Constitution, and above the tricameral government system of three EQUAL branches with checks and balances our Founding Fathers created specifically to make sure no kings. So when someone claims the courts have no power over them...

As to magazines - LA is no different right now than any time, or any large city. Daytime no need (caveat - I carry with 16 round magazine in place). Night time? Depends of where you are going.

The point of CCW is to get you OUT of trouble, not to engage in a prolonged firefight.

Got a name? Just say it. You believe this is some generic gathering?

I guess we’ll see tomorrow when someone’s name is on the paid for signs.

 

[ladder13]

Oops, maybe not.
Three judge appeals court overruled the district court and issued a pause...

Don’t ruin their celebration. Former SCJ Breyers brother? That is no surprise.

 

[Denverd0n]

So when someone claims the courts have no power over them...

Well then, I guess it is a good thing that no one has claimed that!

 

[ladder13]

It makes no sense when some appointed politically motivated lower court judge can stop the Federal Government in its tracks. Word salad explaining why a riot is not a riot is exactly why we are in our present situation. This is why we are supposed to believe men can get pregnant. Dozens of destroyed abandoned police vehicles on freeways with the windshields smashed by 10 lb chunks of torn up sidewalks, burned out hulks of city and private vehicles and looted stores sure looks and smells like anarchy to me. The LA police are preaching the no riot party line because they will be fired if they don't. Just like the ex-fire chief who was dismissed after telling the truth about what made the burning of the city into the most disastrous fire in US history and SURPRISE! an opportunity for "LA 2.0". The state is $73B in debt, Newsom and the state government have painted themselves into a corner they can't get out of (They pass between 800-900 new laws each year: who's paying for them?). The state is a train wreck...

what you have seen is not really happening, it’s AI.

 

[Jon651]

It makes no sense when some appointed politically motivated lower court judge can stop the Federal Government in its tracks. Word salad explaining why a riot is not a riot is exactly why we are in our present situation. This is why we are supposed to believe men can get pregnant. Dozens of destroyed abandoned police vehicles on freeways with the windshields smashed by 10 lb chunks of torn up sidewalks, burned out hulks of city and private vehicles and looted stores sure looks and smells like anarchy to me. The LA police are preaching the no riot party line because they will be fired if they don't. Just like the ex-fire chief who was dismissed after telling the truth about what made the burning of the city into the most disastrous fire in US history and SURPRISE! an opportunity for "LA 2.0". The state is $73B in debt, Newsom and the state government have painted themselves into a corner they can't get out of (They pass between 800-900 new laws each year: who's paying for them?). The state is a train wreck...

Huh? I can't find any source that says any police vehicles - much less "dozens" - have been destroyed or abandoned during the current protests in LA. It is widely reported that some cop cars were struck by thrown debris, five of those Waymo self-driving vehicles have been burned, and three stores have been broken into (two shoe stores and a cellphone store). Exactly nobody is claiming these acts aren't crimes, the people who did this shouldn't be punished, or the criminals should be acquitted or pardoned.

And yet, hundreds of thousands of protesters marched in LA this past week who DIDN'T commit any crimes - but dang it they MUST be criminals and illegal aliens! I saw it on Facebook!

Crimes? Yes, of course because there are always criminals who will seek to use protests as cover for their crimes. But anarchy? Sorry, even in recent history there has been a lot more damage done to major cities in this country after their local professional sports teams have won national championships without managing to overthrow modern American society...

 

[03hemi]

You have no ethnic pride from your ancestors? Maybe if they were also arresting and targeting European, African, or Asian illegal aliens (there are MANY) you would see more flags from those countries?

And you must be a real fun guy on St Pat's day (GO BACK TO IRELAND IF YOU LOVE IT SO MUCH!)

And if they were actually targeting CRIMINASL ( we know what neighborhoods they pervade) instead of those going to immigration courts to try and do it legally, then there would be a lot fewer protests. But easier snagging those that are peaceful and following the law than actually working and hitting (known) gang hangouts. They are certainly armed well enough to do so. They could wear proper court apparel ONE PERSON, and approach the majority of court appearing people and walk out calmly with them. But that doesn't make a strong man spectacle.

Ethnic pride in your heritage vs waving the flag of the country you escaped from while rioting because you don't want to be sent back to that country are not only two very different things, but is the also the epitome of ignorance.

 

[YouveHadYour6]

Ethnic pride in your heritage vs waving the flag of the country you escaped from while rioting because you don't want to be sent back to that country are not only two very different things, but is the also the epitome of ignorance.

...you do realize the majority of Irish immigration to America was also fleeing persecution of various religious and financial sorts, IE the Potato Famine, etc? It's...VERY parallel.

People have kept fond memory of the places they've 'escaped' and/or been booted out of since Adam got talked into an apple and suddenly found himself taking a long roadtrip...

 

[Rocketmedic40]

Ethnic pride in your heritage vs waving the flag of the country you escaped from while rioting because you don't want to be sent back to that country are not only two very different things, but is the also the epitome of ignorance.

You mean the ethnicity and national identity that predated American expansion and even existence at some point and into which they were semi-forcibly absorbed?

 

[biku324]

A lot Hispanics here in New Mexico justifiably say their families never crossed the border, but instead the border crossed them. Santa Fe was capital of Nuevo Mexico, a province of New Spain from 1610, then Mexico in 1821. Came into the US in 1848 after the Mexican-Ameeican War.

The rights of former Mexican citizens here were guaranteed under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and incorporated into the state constitution.

 

[Rocketmedic40]

So, a question: what precisely is the purpose of carrying a pistol in a crowd?

Let’s say you get mobbed. Multiple assailants, in close proximity, likely in contact. Do you draw? News flash….youre likely only getting seconds, at best. You likely ain’t getting a chance to reload at all, regardless of system. You might lose your gun pretty quickly. Not arguing that lower capacity is an asset here, but we’re also talking about retention, sub-optimal grip, possibly shooting from a pocket or with a gun in contention. And there’s 100% the potential for an assailant to gain control of the weapon and use it on you, which opens the whole “what sort of weapon would be the easiest for me to use and the hardest for someone else” discussion. Dropping a magazine might happen, either intentionally or not. Point being, capacity is pretty far down the list of priorities. Conversely, concealment and retention are super-important, because it’s way better to be able to escape notice or engagement then to draw and become part of the fight if that’s even a fragment of a possibility.

Along with this comes public perception. Showing up with an open-carry AR or Glock with extended magazines is a far different threat profile you’re putting off than something like a well-concealed K-frame.

 

[Shibadog]

Yep, stick to the norm. If you think your going to be blasting through 30 rounds in a fight your on the wrong turf. Avoid it, it’s cheaper.

Not to mention that if you dump 30 rounds your legal problems are going to be beyond belief. YOU are responsible for every single round. Those that miss are going to be difficult to talk your way out of. I’ve made 74 trips around the sun, and as of today I have never even heard of a single instance where an armed civilian has discharged/ needed dozens of rounds to defend themselves. Yes, I know there have been cases when cops have, but that is NOT a civilian sd incident. I believe Jeff Cooper was right, if you can not resolve an issue with a thug or two with 7 rounds (He carried a .45) you don’t need more ammo, you need to learn to shoot. Right now somebody is saying “well yea but what if I’m attacked by 1/2 dozen armed thugs?” Frankly if that happens you’re screwed unless they are total buffoons. Heck, what happens if I’m attacked by the North Korean army?… you get the drift. If I’m going to war I want a lot more than any handgun will bring. Plan for reality, not what the latest action hero in a movie does. YMMV

 

[Dave Haynes]

Huh? I can't find any source that says any police vehicles - much less "dozens" - have been destroyed or abandoned during the current protests in LA. It is widely reported that some cop cars were struck by thrown debris, five of those Waymo self-driving vehicles have been burned, and three stores have been broken into (two shoe stores and a cellphone store). Exactly nobody is claiming these acts aren't crimes, the people who did this shouldn't be punished, or the criminals should be acquitted or pardoned.

And yet, hundreds of thousands of protesters marched in LA this past week who DIDN'T commit any crimes - but dang it they MUST be criminals and illegal aliens! I saw it on Facebook!

Crimes? Yes, of course because there are always criminals who will seek to use protests as cover for their crimes. But anarchy? Sorry, even in recent history there has been a lot more damage done to major cities in this country after their local professional sports teams have won national championships without managing to overthrow modern American society...

There are very few sources of media today that are considered unbiased and truthful: Maybe you are not looking beyond the first row of trees or maybe you don't want to look?


" A minority of Americans trust the media. Gallup polls show that only 31% of U.S. adults express a "great deal" or "fair amount" of confidence in the media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. A larger percentage, 36%, report having no trust at all in the media. The remaining 33% express "not very much" confidence. "

You claim: "And yet, hundreds of thousands of protesters marched in LA this past week who DIDN'T commit any crimes"
So 100s of thousands of peaceful, orderly, sign carrying folks traveled to protest and (CBS news) 850 "protesters" have been arrested by LAPD and other LE agencies. You need to refresh your talking points Brother.