Just curious...

As far as pressures. The old paper shells were much thicker than plastics. Definitely raised pressures in them. The other thing was they seeeed to increase gun recoil...noticed more so in break open shotguns which seemed to have more drop in the stock. Increased pressures more so with 3 inch in 2 3/4 inch chambers. Back when I worked on guns I did the conversions on Browning 16 ga making the ejection port longer. Also extended the chamber and forcing cone. They did seem to shoot better patterns by doing so. Not a hard job but it was more time consuming on the Browning. I also remember fitting a few 3 inch M-12 bbls to 2 3/4 inch guns but it was a bit more extensive. Not many know the original length of 410s was 2 inch and originally the 28 was marked as 2 7/8 inches. The plastic wads sealed the bore better than the old card wads so they could use somewhat smoother bores. Powder charges were reduced with plastic wads too
 
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I don't think anyone said .38 S&W - .38/200 - .38 Colt New Police and the .380 Rim.

As a side, I really enjoy shooting the .38 S&W and especially the .38/200 in an Enfield revolver.
 
I don't think anyone said .38 S&W - .38/200 - .38 Colt New Police and the .380 Rim.

As a side, I really enjoy shooting the .38 S&W and especially the .38/200 in an Enfield revolver.

38 S&W, 38/200 and 38 Colt New Police all use the same case I think. They are just different loadings. I'm not sure about the 380 Rim. There are a lot of cartridges with 380 in their title that are completely different dimensions. I like to shoot my Enfield also. They are really interesting guns when you get into them. I'm not too sure it would have been my first choice to carry into battle though.
 
The official British military nomenclature for the cartridge was .380 Revolver Mark 1 (or II). It was never officially called the .38/200. Colt .38 New Police and .38 S&W cartridges are identical except for a difference in bullet nose profile.
 
I was verifying the zero on my old 30-06, when my groups went to heck. Keyholing and spread all over the target. Some joker (most likely me) put 280 Remington hand loads in a cartridge box labeled 30-06.

280 cases are slightly longer, but they chambered in a old 03.
 
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I was verifying the zero on my old 30-06, when my groups went to heck. Keyholing and spread all over the target. Some joker (most likely me) put 280 Remington hand loads in a cartridge box labeled 30-06.

280 cases are slightly longer, but they chambered in a old 03.
Never Been there done THAT...but did once shoot a (1) 25-06 in a 270. Just sounded off...DUH. I did watch a fellow trying to stuff a 300 H&H into a 30-06 once. At a sight in day at a range. I traded him a box of 30-06 for his box of 300 H&Hs. His rifle actually shot well:rolleyes:
 
Too lazy today to read all the replies but my S&W Model 632 Carry Comp Pro .327 shoots more than the Federal 327. 32acp and up.

That sucker is loud as heck in 327.... If you miss it will scare 'em enough that they will turn tail and run.
 
My club's indoor range was recently remodeled and all "magnum" ammo was outlawed. Had to switch to .38 spl and 44 spl, etc.

Starline has introduced .41 Spl brass, but boy was it hard to find any reasonable loading data. What I did find classified it as a wildcat cartridge.

I DID go ahead with it and was quite pleased with the results.
Since you handload, you can still shoot what is very nearly a "magnum" out of .38 spl and 44 spl brass - modern spl brass is plenty tough enough for any sane load. Just be careful not to mistakenly run these loads through actual spl revolvers.

You probably know this already, but the Lyman 358156 bullet (a Ray Thompson design) actually has two crimping grooves - crimp it in the second groove using .38 spl brass, and you've got nearly .357 Mag case capacity. And of course, we all know what Elmer Keith did with the .44 Special.
 
Since you handload, you can still shoot what is very nearly a "magnum" out of .38 spl and 44 spl brass - modern spl brass is plenty tough enough for any sane load. Just be careful not to mistakenly run these loads through actual spl revolvers.

You probably know this already, but the Lyman 358156 bullet (a Ray Thompson design) actually has two crimping grooves - crimp it in the second groove using .38 spl brass, and you've got nearly .357 Mag case capacity. And of course, we all know what Elmer Keith did with the .44 Special.
I don't NEED a magnum load to target shoot. If I DID load to near magnum velocities, it would violate the spirit of the club rules.
 
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