K-frame 9mm
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You cannot call it the 69. S&W already makes a 5 shot 44 with that model number. The 69 is currently the only revolver I own.
The 9mm round has a lot more pressure than a 38 so the guns need to be stronger and heavier than the same gun in 38. So it would end up being both heavier and having less capacity than one of the many micro 9mm pistols.
I might buy one because I like revolvers and do not want to stock another caliber. For those of us that do not reload 9mm is less expensive than 38. But you have to deal with poking the empties out or using moon clips. Unless you reload no light target loads are available which would make the gun less versatile than a 38.
The 9mm round has a lot more pressure than a 38 so the guns need to be stronger and heavier than the same gun in 38. So it would end up being both heavier and having less capacity than one of the many micro 9mm pistols.
I might buy one because I like revolvers and do not want to stock another caliber. For those of us that do not reload 9mm is less expensive than 38. But you have to deal with poking the empties out or using moon clips. Unless you reload no light target loads are available which would make the gun less versatile than a 38.
Me too, 3in rnd butt please.
BigBill
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Cheap to feed, offer a 4” and 6” barrel? The m19 was in 357?
I'd go for the stainless with moon clips. I'm not an engineer so I can live with 5 or 6 shooters that are durable in K frame with round butt, tapered barrel 3 or 4 inch so not to heavy. The current N frames are too heavy to be multi-functional. Please, please
They already made the six shot fixed sight 9 mm K frame Model 547 with 3" and 4" barrels. It had six spring loaded tabs in a beryllium copper extractor. Loading cartridges depressed the tabs which then snapped back out into the extractor grooves. They did not have clearance between the cylinder and recoil shield for moon clips. Charter Arms uses a similar system today in 9 mm, .40S&W and .45 ACP snub noses. To prevent cushioning the firing pin blow which would result in missfires the Model 547 also had a spring loaded plunger that protruded from the recoil shield to fully seat cartridges.
Model 547s were not perfect. The extractor grooves in some brands of cases worked well but other brands or lots did not. HKS made speed loaders but the cartrdiges would only drop part way in. They still had to be individually pressed in past the spring loaded tabs. Model 547s were troublesome and did not sell well in the USA. French police bought them. They might have been designed specifically for them.
Since the Model 547 was discontinued S&W has made Model 940 enclosed hammer J frames and are currently making 7shot L and 8 shot N frame 9 mm revolvers.
The revolvers that are the closest to moon clip loading K frames are Ruger's fixed sighted 9 mm Service Six and Speed Six. They were made blued and stainless and with 3" and 4" barrels.
Before Obama was elected I could buy 1,000 Wolff 9 mm FMJ cartridges for $84 out the door. I wanted a six shot double action to shoot them in matches. What I learned is that double action revolver extractors are not strong enough to extract five or six steel .40S&W or 9 mm cases at once. You have to use an automatic pistol, a single action revolver or go back to more expensive brass cases.
Model 547s were not perfect. The extractor grooves in some brands of cases worked well but other brands or lots did not. HKS made speed loaders but the cartrdiges would only drop part way in. They still had to be individually pressed in past the spring loaded tabs. Model 547s were troublesome and did not sell well in the USA. French police bought them. They might have been designed specifically for them.
Since the Model 547 was discontinued S&W has made Model 940 enclosed hammer J frames and are currently making 7shot L and 8 shot N frame 9 mm revolvers.
The revolvers that are the closest to moon clip loading K frames are Ruger's fixed sighted 9 mm Service Six and Speed Six. They were made blued and stainless and with 3" and 4" barrels.
Before Obama was elected I could buy 1,000 Wolff 9 mm FMJ cartridges for $84 out the door. I wanted a six shot double action to shoot them in matches. What I learned is that double action revolver extractors are not strong enough to extract five or six steel .40S&W or 9 mm cases at once. You have to use an automatic pistol, a single action revolver or go back to more expensive brass cases.
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