Kahr vs Smith

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I just sold my Kahr CW9, what a *** this gun is, first off I had a mag drop out every third or so round. Kahr had to send a replacement, this seemed to take care of it. Then the recoil spring broke and I called Kahr and was told that they would not replace it, this is a two month old gun with just over the break in rounds though it. They said that Kahr springs do not break and that I had to send it in my dime about 25 bucks or so.
Then they asked what ammo I used and I said walmart federal and Ram ammo. The customer service rep than said he voided my warranty because I went and shot reloaded ammo in their gun. Glock and Smith and Ruger never have even close acted like this on the worst experience I have had with them. Smith sent me a new mag when I had trouble and did not even want a serial no. Glock sent me a new guide rod with spring because my 19 cracked. Smith and Wesson has some of the best CS I have ever experienced with any product. Ruger is a bit spotty but nothing like this.

I recommend anyone looking for a CCW to check out the Shield or Glock 26 and stay away from Kahr, they went from life time to 5 year warranty and now they use any excuse in the book to just tell you to go pound sand.
 
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Well. I have carried and shot a kahr CW9 for a lot of years now and have never had any problem with it. I don't know of a better carry gun than the kahr. I have nothin against the S&W or Glock, they are all fine guns. I carried the Glock 26 for a while prior to my purchase of the kahr and it was certainly a good gun but it was so chunky that I felt like I had a 2x4 block attached to my belt.I believe that personal preference is the determining factor. I believe that your experience, as you have stated, is certainly not the norm.
 
My Kahr PM9 has been flawless. My P380 had some break-in issues, but has run fine since. I don't see a reason to buy another Kahr, but then again I don't plan to get rid of the ones I have-they are keepers!
 
I've got about 400 problem free rounds thru my CM9. It's not a bad little gun at all. But I have heard other stories about their CS and some QC issues from others.
 
I think this is the 5th or so forum I've read this on. We got it, you had a bad experiance with Kahr. Things happen. No company, NEVER EVER EVER EVER made any products 100% ALL THE TIME EVERY TIME. Its impossible. Before I sold my CW9 it ran flawlessly with thousands of different rounds including, wolf, Blazer, Iranian, +p and +p+. Never had one hiccup and never saw a cleaning brush or the slightes bit of oil. My friend has the smaller version and its been problem free.
 
I've got about 400 problem free rounds thru my CM9. It's not a bad little gun at all. But I have heard other stories about their CS and some QC issues from others.

Had many tell me the same thing, they love the Kahr, I can't really say its a bad gun and to be fair my problems were minor, but Kahrs Customer Service in my opinion sucks. My feeling is if Kahr will throw a customer under the bus for an 8 dollar recoil spring what happen if I really need them to step up to the plate. Where will they be when a frame cracks and there is not a poly gun that has not had a frame crack. I may never need CS on a large scale but if they are not there in the small things they will not be there in the large things.
 
Happy with my CW40, one of the most accurate plastic guns I've owned, would like to compare to others in a ransom rest, they're tight from the factory on purpose.
 
I have gotten some PMs saying they totally agree with my problems and would love to post but Kahr lovers seem to try to beat anyone having problems down. I think this does not help the sport. Not pointing a finger at any paticular individual but I have seen this happen.
 
first off I had a mag drop out every third or so round . . . Then the recoil spring broke . . . Smith sent me a new mag when I had trouble . . . Glock sent me a new guide rod with spring because my 19 cracked.

What first occurred to me after reading your post was that *you* break a lot of guns.
 
My limited experience with Kahr CS and my PM9 has been just the opposite of the OP.
The couple of times that I had to contact Kahr, they were extremely helpful. The one time that the pistol had to go back, at their request, they picked up the tab both ways.
I've had two mags replaced, no questions.
I broke a mag follower, they sent a replacement along with two spares!
I reported a minor problem/malfunction with a recoil assembly, I received two.
Maybe it's just the way in which you approach them?
 
I sent a 10 year old E-9 back to Kahr for some peening on the the slide. They replaced the black slide and barrel with stainless. No charge. I would have no problem buying another Kahr because of great service.
 
I have gotten some PMs saying they totally agree with my problems and would love to post but Kahr lovers seem to try to beat anyone having problems down.
:rolleyes:

You could copy and paste the body of these PM's from frightened Kahr owners anonymously.
 
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Kahr customer service treated me well when I needed them. I had some trouble with my K40's main spring when I first got it a couple years back. Kahr sent me a new spring via express mail, but it failed, too. So they sent me another main spring and a new guide rod. I am pretty sure they must have gotten a bad run of springs, but I have never had another hiccup.
But I guess I am one of those "Kahr Lovers." Two weeks ago, I shot TDI's Handgun II & III with my 14 year old Kahr E9. Since it is a carbon steel gun, it's finish has suffered over the years but it was a Singer sewing machine on the line. I got lot's of practice with mag changes, too!
 
Have had no problems with my cm9.I carry it iwb about 60 per cent of the time. I carry my s&w 469 when I can use a belt holster. They both do the job they are made for.
 
Friends don't let friends buy Kahr. Worse CS I have ever experienced in 30 plus years of buying and selling firearms. New 1911 first time out front sight came off, trigger would not reset after firing a round essentually turning the pistol into a bolt action. Returned the pistol to Kahr, it ended up getting lost in their shop for over six weeks, when it was returned the work on the front sight appeared to have been done by a blacksmith. Pistol continued to have problems so I kept it in the shop as an example of Kahr quality. Finally sold it for parts.
 
I have a CW40 and I am one step away from a CW45

Aint SCEERD

Hank
 
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