LA Gun Buyback....Darn

One of the police types appeared saying that the guns would be checked to see if they are stolen and if so would be returned to the rightful owners..... uh, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

That's why they call it a thin blue line.
 
My understanding is that part of the success of these programs is that they are "no questions asked." So crime guns, stolen guns, whatever, can be turned in without the donor having to worry about repercussion. Just another unbelievable example of what liberals think is a good way to fight crime. Get rid of the gun, but leave the perp on the street, with taxpayer dollars in their pocket. I wonder how many guns get stolen just for the purpose of getting paid at these "buy backs." :rolleyes:
 
I saw that too... It made me quite sad to see those guns treated like that. I have an off brand SA .22 revolver that I'd consider dumping at a buy back if they were paying enough.
 
Heck if I know about the buy back earlier I would have taken a nice drive down there and offered 150 for a few of them!!!
 
Wayulp, if there's any kinda silver lining at all, any of those models of S&W that were destroyed makes our specimens of the same models just a tad scarcer, no? Not noticeably, I'm sure, but I'm just trying to find some positivity in the middle of our wallowing in the Great Renaissance Of Stupid.
 
There is a lot of "just do something" mentality going around these days. If the buy back programs count as "doing something", they may be a good diversion for the anti's to expend some energy in an ineffective manner. At least, I like to think so.

Best, and Happy Boxing Day,
Rick
 
l read a gun survey article in Dec 2011 issue of Field & Stream today. One question asked where the anti-gun rhetoric was generated. Poll said 70% came from the news media.
 
I saw what looked like a Ruger No 1 or 77 in one of the barrels where kept the long guns. Straight stock and nice dark grained wood. What a shame.
 
These things are a joke. If it is a "no questions asked" buyback the gangbangers use it to dispose of their "hot" guns. Then you have the widows who dispose of their husbands war trophies. I know folks around here who buy junk guns just to sell them in the buybacks.
 
Some 23 years ago Australia had a bad shooting and started anti gun laws plus a big buyback program. By the time the buyback was finished they spent 320 million dollars (Australian) on about 644 thousand guns.
Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)
Victoria was the only jurisdiction to release details. 47.5 percent were .22 rimfire and 47.8 percent were shotguns. Most guns that were turned-in were junk. Probably typical of other jurisdictions.

My quick math seems to indicate that Australia spent about 496 dollars of taxpayers money per gun. Lots of people had to be hired to get the job done it seems.
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Bottom line about Newtown Connecticut killings.
The news (about a week ago?) said his mother was about to have him committed. And she had been (very friendly or) volunteering at that school he attacked.

EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap | Fox News

If that is accurate……
No gun regulations or buyback programs are going to cure paranoia or jealousy in this country. In a free country the court process takes time.

If Hollywood stopped making gun violence movies tomorrow -- they would need to switch to some other violent tool. They already use Molotov Cocktails, perhaps flamethrowers will be next. Even in the mental institutions they watch TV and are waiting for the next trend. Nail guns? Maybe back to ladies hat pins? Throwing acid in faces?
 
Gun Buy-backs

I just watched a Headline News report about a gun buy-back program that was "so successful" that the police ran out of gift cards". They said that they got 1600 guns.

OK... 1600 guns is hardly noteworthy in a country where citizens have over 300 million guns, but they report it like it is a majority of people supporting bans.

But that's not my point today. My point today is: Do you think the police run the serial numbers to see of they are stolen?

I would bet that a lot of those guns were stolen and if the police are not checking them, then why not turn them in for cash or a gift card. No risk, amnesty from prosecution promised, don't have to fence them, etc.

If they do not check to see if they are stolen, the really sad thing about this is that the lawful gun owner, from whom they were stolen, should have the opportunity to recover them. It would actually make the police accessories to the crime. Isn't it illegal to receive stolen property? Obviously that would not be the case if they were checking and returning the guns, but if they keep them and destroy them, then they are acting as the receivers of stolen property, not as law enforcement trying to return stolen property.

I live in a small town and they do not do these kinds of programs. Maybe they do check them all to see if they are stolen. Does anyone know if the police check these guns against the database of stolen guns? If they do, do they return them to the rightful owners?

Thanks!
-Mike-
 
My friend back in Los Angeles called me on the way to the buy back with the 4 guns his father in law left him. I told him to sell the H&R 38 and some old broken stocked Japanese rifle. I talked him into keeping the Winchester model 12 and the Nambu. I will sell the Nambu on gunbroker for him and take him trap shooting to learn to appreciate the 12. Good thing he called me...I can only slap my forehead so many times in one year.
 
Google " John Lott on gun buybacks ". He sees them as counter productive. Here is part of his article :

7/01/2012
The pointlessness of gun buyback programs
There is a reason that researchers don't find that gun buyback programs reduce crime. 1) Most of the guns sold don't work. 2) It is possible that the gun buyback programs actually allow those giving up the guns to buy money to buy working guns. 3) The gun buyback program can actually help criminals get rid of guns that they have used in crime and to get rid of them in a way that allows them to make some money off them.
 
Some 23 years ago Australia had a bad shooting and started anti gun laws plus a big buyback program. By the time the buyback was finished they spent 320 million dollars (Australian) on about 644 thousand guns.
Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)
Victoria was the only jurisdiction to release details. 47.5 percent were .22 rimfire and 47.8 percent were shotguns. Most guns that were turned-in were junk. Probably typical of other jurisdictions.

My quick math seems to indicate that Australia spent about 496 dollars of taxpayers money per gun. Lots of people had to be hired to get the job done it seems.

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Saw the same report on tv last night, of course it was California. Saw some sweet 6 inch smiths in a big box with other handguns. The reporter commented that most would of the guns would be destroyed, not ALL. So maybe there is a chance that serial numbers will be run and owners notified. One can hope.
 
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