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Bruce Nelson recommended Tandy Super Sheen on his products, nothing else. He said oils and soaps would soften the leather. It is available on Amazon.
Leather Oils
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I'm hearing two different types of leather goods being treated here.
I'm not a pro but would think the treatments will be different for chaps, boots etc. as opposed to a holster, which needs to maintain its shape and boning to retain the firearm.
Leather that I'm wearing I would prefer to be soft and supple, but not my holsters.
I'm not a pro but would think the treatments will be different for chaps, boots etc. as opposed to a holster, which needs to maintain its shape and boning to retain the firearm.
Leather that I'm wearing I would prefer to be soft and supple, but not my holsters.
bigwheelzip
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From Galco:
Galco's saddle leather and premium horsehide holsters, belts, and accessories will need minimal care and maintenance throughout their service life.
Our saddle leather products are made from natural steer hides that are range bred and grown. Therefore there may be natural range markings in the grain of the saddle leather. This is normal for top grain steer hide, and adds to the beauty and character of your Galco leather product. These same natural range markings will appear in our genuine horsehide.
By following the instructions below, you will add to the service life of your Galco product.
DO
Regularly clean your leather product with Galco Leather Lotion or use a hard bar glycerin soap. Work soap and a small amount of water into a lather and apply to the surface of the leather, rub in and wipe off with a soft cloth. Galco Leather Lotion will replace the natural oils of the leather. Do not use additional oils such as Neats Foot or Mink oil, as they will soften the leather too much.
Holsters that come in contact with body perspiration on a regular basis may need to be treated as outlined above as often as once a month, to slow the natural breakdown of the leather fibers.
Dry the leather naturally – do not use any type of artificial heat.
DON'T
Do not submerge or saturate your leather product in water or any other liquid. Do not dry your leather product with heat from a hair dryer, oven, radiator, direct sunlight, etc.
Do not use oils such as Neats Foot or Mink oil, as they will saturate and soften the leather too much.
Do not leave your leather product on the dashboard of your car in summer, or leave it otherwise exposed to the elements.
The above care and maintenance instructions cannot substitute for your good common sense. Following our recommended care and maintenance tips, along with common sense, will allow you to get the maximum service life from your Galco leather products.
Galco's saddle leather and premium horsehide holsters, belts, and accessories will need minimal care and maintenance throughout their service life.
Our saddle leather products are made from natural steer hides that are range bred and grown. Therefore there may be natural range markings in the grain of the saddle leather. This is normal for top grain steer hide, and adds to the beauty and character of your Galco leather product. These same natural range markings will appear in our genuine horsehide.
By following the instructions below, you will add to the service life of your Galco product.
DO
Regularly clean your leather product with Galco Leather Lotion or use a hard bar glycerin soap. Work soap and a small amount of water into a lather and apply to the surface of the leather, rub in and wipe off with a soft cloth. Galco Leather Lotion will replace the natural oils of the leather. Do not use additional oils such as Neats Foot or Mink oil, as they will soften the leather too much.
Holsters that come in contact with body perspiration on a regular basis may need to be treated as outlined above as often as once a month, to slow the natural breakdown of the leather fibers.
Dry the leather naturally – do not use any type of artificial heat.
DON'T
Do not submerge or saturate your leather product in water or any other liquid. Do not dry your leather product with heat from a hair dryer, oven, radiator, direct sunlight, etc.
Do not use oils such as Neats Foot or Mink oil, as they will saturate and soften the leather too much.
Do not leave your leather product on the dashboard of your car in summer, or leave it otherwise exposed to the elements.
The above care and maintenance instructions cannot substitute for your good common sense. Following our recommended care and maintenance tips, along with common sense, will allow you to get the maximum service life from your Galco leather products.
I've found from experience that rubbing alcohol destroys holsters. It may be ok if used very sparingly to remove a small ink or marker-penned prior owner's name on the back of holster or something like that, but it will completely strip top coat and damage the leather itself, turning it into brittle crumbly cardboard-like material if the top coat is thin or non-existent. The problem is it works too well, stripping not only oils added to the leather but also the natural oils/fats present deep in the fibers. I would advise against using it to try to de-oil an entire holster.
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rednichols
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I think that this is a great thread and there is lots of accurate information here -- if one can just pick it from what's 'kinda true'. Personally I almost never use, for example, neatsfoot oil. Yet it's an industry standard so no reason to be afraid of it; but neither is it really appropriate to use on a finished holster.
When reviewing a company recommend, from Bruce's tiny operation to Galco's large one, you all need to consider that makers have an agenda. Always. Examples: with neatsfoot oil, they just don't want you creating a warranty claim by overtreating the holster and making it soggy; with tight holsters, they just don't know how to prevent it and don't want you bogging down their phone lines complaining about it.
So, as a preventive measure, they tell you what they want you to know. And I know this, because the warranty department was one of my many responsibilities at Bianchi for decades. We didn't ever use that b.s. instruction to 'put your pistol in a plastic bag and leave it in the holster overnight'. Do the same without the bag and you'll get exactly the same result: it's not the bag!
It is completely true that a completed holster with 'normal' use needs no treatment -- at all. I have Heisers that are 100 years old in my collection (that were made with neatsfoot oil treatment, by the way). But when the cosmetics of your holster are threatened by actually using that bad boy, then the advice to use a clear wax (OMG, coloured shoe wax will rub off on your clothes) is workable.
Personally I use Fiebing's Tan Kote which has the disadvantage of needing a bit of skill to apply it, and it darkens a brown leather somewhat. Better is Fiebing's Harness Dressing, though it takes a bit more skill to apply -- but it doesn't darken the leather. HD is what was in the Bianchi leather dressing bottles back when it was a real holster company made in America.
When reviewing a company recommend, from Bruce's tiny operation to Galco's large one, you all need to consider that makers have an agenda. Always. Examples: with neatsfoot oil, they just don't want you creating a warranty claim by overtreating the holster and making it soggy; with tight holsters, they just don't know how to prevent it and don't want you bogging down their phone lines complaining about it.
So, as a preventive measure, they tell you what they want you to know. And I know this, because the warranty department was one of my many responsibilities at Bianchi for decades. We didn't ever use that b.s. instruction to 'put your pistol in a plastic bag and leave it in the holster overnight'. Do the same without the bag and you'll get exactly the same result: it's not the bag!
It is completely true that a completed holster with 'normal' use needs no treatment -- at all. I have Heisers that are 100 years old in my collection (that were made with neatsfoot oil treatment, by the way). But when the cosmetics of your holster are threatened by actually using that bad boy, then the advice to use a clear wax (OMG, coloured shoe wax will rub off on your clothes) is workable.
Personally I use Fiebing's Tan Kote which has the disadvantage of needing a bit of skill to apply it, and it darkens a brown leather somewhat. Better is Fiebing's Harness Dressing, though it takes a bit more skill to apply -- but it doesn't darken the leather. HD is what was in the Bianchi leather dressing bottles back when it was a real holster company made in America.
VaTom
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Lexol is what I use on leather. Back in the day of leather duty gear I always used black shoe polish (paste kind - not liguid) on my Sam Brown belt holster,drop pouch,handcuff case,etc. Keep it supple and nice looking. Properly buffed it never came off on uniform. Inspection on Saturdays of daylight shift (once a month) you better be looking sharp. (That was 40 years ago!)
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Ah, yes. That good ol' wet dog smell! Takes me back to rainy days of my youth.
Lobogunleathers
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There are a lot of good comments on here. For holsters we advise the good ol shoe polish for touch up and a little saddle soap on a damp not wet rag.
Be extremely careful with rubbing alcohol this can screw up the finish and color that on many leather goods
There are many types of leather tanning processes out there and each has a purpose with different care needs, saddles need more oil to penetrate the depth of the leather and keep them soft and usable where holsters need to maintain their stiffness to securely hold the weapon but boots can have mink oil (silicone base) to help waterproof them but never use mink oil on saddle tack as it will cause dry rot . In short different leather goods require different care needs.
Some oils are good but too much will damage goods
Be extremely careful with rubbing alcohol this can screw up the finish and color that on many leather goods
There are many types of leather tanning processes out there and each has a purpose with different care needs, saddles need more oil to penetrate the depth of the leather and keep them soft and usable where holsters need to maintain their stiffness to securely hold the weapon but boots can have mink oil (silicone base) to help waterproof them but never use mink oil on saddle tack as it will cause dry rot . In short different leather goods require different care needs.
Some oils are good but too much will damage goods
I have a pair of alligator loafers. Real, not faux. Not cheap.
Kind of a chestnut color. Accidentally got a drop of white paint
on them. Used fingernail polish remover to take the paint off.
Not very smart. Took the chestnut color off too. Now I have
a bare spot about an inch square. We have to be careful about
what we are using. Same applies to holsters.
Kind of a chestnut color. Accidentally got a drop of white paint
on them. Used fingernail polish remover to take the paint off.
Not very smart. Took the chestnut color off too. Now I have
a bare spot about an inch square. We have to be careful about
what we are using. Same applies to holsters.
Learned years ago to never oil a leather holster...a good polish now and then or clean with saddle soap prior to polish. The leather treatments and oils will soak into the leather and over time will cause the leather to loose it's shape and contours and retention ability....I learned the hard way by ruining a 165.00 Milt Sparks OWB holster for my Glock.............
Don't try this at home.........................................................
Don't try this at home.........................................................
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The ONLY thing that I EVER use on leather Holsters is Kiwi Shoe Polish once every few years. I would NEVER use Oils, Soaps, Treatments, Softeners, etc. as they will soften the Leather, ruin their retention qualities and shorten their longevity as a useful holster. The shoe polish serves to make the Holster look better once again and add a layer of some sort for some level of protection - but mostly cosmetic. Most importantly it does NOT soften the leather.
Ole Joe Clark
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Finger nail polish remover contains acetone, which will remove paint, and just about anything else. It's also highly flammable.
Thanks to all of the guys who posted here for sharing their wisdom and experience. Personally, although I am certainly not an expert, and didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, I have always used nothing more than a light coat of clear Kiwi shoe polish, (I used clear because it went with any color) lightly brushed and then polished with a soft cloth....once every several years. I have some very old holsters that I have worn (some have been posted elsewhere on the forum) and they have all held up well.
I also have experimented with Lexol, because it seemed to work well on the seats in my car, but never really used it very much, and don't really have much of an opinion about it.
But... I just learned about Blackrock this week, and am going to experiment with it a little.
As Big Cholla says above, the forum is a wonderful place where we all share our knowlege, and the sum total of knowlege here is extraordinary!!
Best Regards, Les
I also have experimented with Lexol, because it seemed to work well on the seats in my car, but never really used it very much, and don't really have much of an opinion about it.
But... I just learned about Blackrock this week, and am going to experiment with it a little.
As Big Cholla says above, the forum is a wonderful place where we all share our knowlege, and the sum total of knowlege here is extraordinary!!
Best Regards, Les
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AgentSmith
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Boots: Obenauf's LP or oil
Ancient, dried out holsters: same
New or good condition holsters: clear shoe polish as Lobo suggests. YMMV.
I avoid Armorall type products and even the old-timer's favorite: neatsfoot oil. Neatsfoot can get rancid; too many superior modern treatments to use something made from cattle hooves! Again, just my opinion.
Ancient, dried out holsters: same
New or good condition holsters: clear shoe polish as Lobo suggests. YMMV.
I avoid Armorall type products and even the old-timer's favorite: neatsfoot oil. Neatsfoot can get rancid; too many superior modern treatments to use something made from cattle hooves! Again, just my opinion.
