Lemon Squeezer

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I found a S&W .38SW cal. and I'd like to now what model number it is and approx. when it was made:
*Top Break
*Hammerless
*Serial#185XXX
*Left side of barrel says ??S & W CTG
*Fixed Sights
*3/14" Barrel
*Black "Plastic" handles
I wouldn't say its mint but it is in very good shape. Any value?
Thanks for your help
 
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38 Safety Hammerless (SH). 4th Model. Made a lot of them. Blue or nickel?
Does it have value, heck yes. Depending on condition. Do the grips match?
I have paid as little as $35 to $200, Lots of them are roached out and pocket worn, but function perfectly. Yes, safe to shoot. Best.
 
Welcome to the Forum. Your 38 Safety would have shipped from the factory around 1905. The stocks for your revolver are not really plastic, but rather a type of rubber and if not worn, they are a good indicator that the gun was not used very much.

38 S&W ammunition is still manufactured and usually available at some online ammo sites.
 
Thanks for the help. The gun is blued. The grips are perfect. So the model # is 38SH?
 
Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! There is no model number . At the time, S&W was using model names. Your gun is known as a 38 safety hammerless. S&W never called it this but it was commonly known as a lemon squeezer.

Guy
 
There have been so many references made to various models that one cannot remember them all. I think the most accepted naming convention comes from Roy's book. Problem is that his reference ends at the end of WWII, so all that "new" stuff out there has to use the box label for a name until the Model numbers came out in the late 1950s.

It has been pointed out by many of our experts that the Marketing Department was responsible for many of the labels and model names, while the factory had different designations. Even the gun boxes of the period had identity issues. While the end labels of many hammerless revolvers said "New Departure", the interior label said "Safety". The reason why I like Roy's interpretation is that it is a combination of those who had gone before him, old factory records, and was a chance to clarify S&Ws by using a model, issue, or change number to differentiate major mechanical and visual differences.

One relatively new name that I am both befuddled and amazed by is the K22 Outoors-Man's Revolver. Everyone uses the K22 Outdoorsman, but references of the era clearly show the difference. One of our members brought this to my attention in posting an original flyer on the Forum. I rather like the new reference, even though I don't exactly know how it was derived.

So those few out there who do not have Roy's 1857-1945 book, pick up a second hand copy or reprint cheap. Using a common reference will clear up lots of confusion. One last irritation for me is using the Model 1 1/2 and Model 2 top-break designations, since so many posts from new members do not know there were two model revolvers with that designation.
 

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