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Nice grips!
Let's see your U.S. Model 1917 S&Ws!
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The Wizard
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Power Burns,
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Check out EvilBay and GunBroker. Lanyard loop assemblies are offered there on a regular bases.
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Thank you! I will.
It's and old tale. The cavalry pistol belt never existed. The M1912 pistol belt with sabre ring is a Non Commissioned Officer belt, and it was issued because NCOs were allowed to carry the sabre, even if only during parades. On the opposite side, sabre ring was added to the M1903 cartridge belt just for cavalry use.
Ok this wil probably be sacreligious to the purists, but how do you make a snubbie out of the 1917? Some pictures look like the barrel was just cut off and others look like a barrel replacement. What kind of approx. costs would a gunsmith charge to do the job? Any comments or help would be appreciated. This one looks good.
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I believe that one belongs to whitecoyote, and he had it cut. I could be mistaken.................
A beautiful collection of 1917s . . . many thanks to all for sharing.
Bill Bates,
Am curious if your modified 1917 has a factory date stamp on the frame (left side under stock) and, if so, what it is.
I have a similar Commercial 1917 originally shipped in August 1927 with serial number 179014 (very close to yours) that is also believed to have been factory modified to 45 Colt. It too has a replacement barrel (5 ½”) and cylinder numbered to the gun. Mine is date stamped 7.49 (July 1949) but the curious part is the ejector rod tip . . . it is the late 20 – 30s style rather than the mushroom-shaped tip on all other 1917s I’ve seen and as used on yours.
The more general question is whether S&W made any 1917s originally with the late 20s – 30s style ejector rod tip. Does anyone have one?
Russ
Here is my odd ball 1917 Commercial chambered in .45 Colt Ctg. instead of .45 acp. The barrel was replaced with a 6 1/2" barrel. All the serial numbers match barrel, cylinder, ejector star and grips. This was no hack job done on a .455 revolver. It shoots pretty well...at least better than me.
Bill Bates,
Am curious if your modified 1917 has a factory date stamp on the frame (left side under stock) and, if so, what it is.
I have a similar Commercial 1917 originally shipped in August 1927 with serial number 179014 (very close to yours) that is also believed to have been factory modified to 45 Colt. It too has a replacement barrel (5 ½”) and cylinder numbered to the gun. Mine is date stamped 7.49 (July 1949) but the curious part is the ejector rod tip . . . it is the late 20 – 30s style rather than the mushroom-shaped tip on all other 1917s I’ve seen and as used on yours.
The more general question is whether S&W made any 1917s originally with the late 20s – 30s style ejector rod tip. Does anyone have one?
Russ
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A Brazilian model that seems to have lived a charmed life. Needs a new pair of shoes. Just picked this one up last week at gunshow.
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No date stamp under the grips on the left side, which is a bit odd. There is a diamond stamp on the barrel by the serial number, indicating a re-barrel. All the serial numbers match. The head space will not allow .45 acp with moon clips.
It just one old odd revolver that someone converted to .45 Colt the way is should be done. The work may or may not have been done by S&W.
It just one old odd revolver that someone converted to .45 Colt the way is should be done. The work may or may not have been done by S&W.
Bill,
Thanks for your reply. I'm guessing that the date stamp was applied during some periods and not others, so it probably depends on when it was done. I can't imagine anyone other than the factory would put the diamond replacement symbol and number the barrel to the gun.
If we all support it, one day the S&W Historical Foundation will digitize the factory records . . . including work orders . . . and we'll be able to learn more about who ordered the work and what work was done by the factory.
In the meantime we'll just enjoy these fine "professionally enhanced" jewels.
Thanks again, Russ
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This one came home with me this past weekend. It has just the right amount of character on it 
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Model of 1917 "Artillery Model"? That is a new one on me. There must be a real good story behind that one.
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My Century imported Brazilian, from the first batch sent south. Its wearing some checkered wood grips from Numrich now. I paid $700 for it and a Colt Woodsman...
I was just being playful.
Although I think they ought to have had an 'Artillery Model' with a longer Barrel...mine is one which had been re-Barreled early on, with a longer Barrel.
I had always thought they should have offered the M1917 in various Barrel Lengths ( say, 2-1/4, to 8-1/2 Inch anyway ) for the Civillian Market, and, even though this one is a done-long-ago re-Barrel, I was very happy to find it and make it my own.
You get another hundred or so FPS with the same Ammunition, and, it just has a nice look and feel of it's own as well.
Thanks to Woad_yurt, I now have a very nice Model 1917.
Numbers match on stocks (written in pencil on right stock?), yoke, barrel, extractor, and of course the butt. There is some corrosion on front of cylinder and in barrel from corrosive ammo, but not enough to turn it down. Bore is very good otherwise with nice lands/grooves. Eagles head proof on barrel, cylinder, & yoke, and ordnance bomb with what looks like a C in the center of the bomb on the frame, & United States Property on bottom of barrel.
Numbers match on stocks (written in pencil on right stock?), yoke, barrel, extractor, and of course the butt. There is some corrosion on front of cylinder and in barrel from corrosive ammo, but not enough to turn it down. Bore is very good otherwise with nice lands/grooves. Eagles head proof on barrel, cylinder, & yoke, and ordnance bomb with what looks like a C in the center of the bomb on the frame, & United States Property on bottom of barrel.
M2MikeGolf
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I need a little help from some of you Model 1917 experts. First, here's my story:
I am retired US Army and I live in Germany. I am licensed to hunt here, so I am allowed two hanguns (I know, that sounds horrible, doesn't it?). I recently purchased a 619 (so I can purchase one more) and am completely satisfied, but the one S&W that I want that I can't get over here is the new Model 1917. However, I recently came across two original 1917s. One claims to be an original 1920 made 1917 with 85% finish (pictures on the left, 57877) and and a Brazilian contract model (53469), made in 1937 with military finish. The euro to dollar here is horrible and has been for some years and everything is incredibly expensive, so both of these are going for the same amount; $688, which is pretty reasonable even for new guns over here. I can't give much more detail than these pictures, but at first look, what do you experts say? I don't think I could get one any cheaper, in any condition over here. I am thinking that US issue one on the left is probably the one to go for, but don't know enough about what the differences could be to make the price drive selection of the two. It has "US Property" stamped underneath the barrel so I beleive it's issue and not civilian, but I'm guessing those grips are not original? The translation for the site is difficult, I think they state that the grips have "US Property" stamped on them as well, and that the revolver is not "overused". Any ideas?
I am retired US Army and I live in Germany. I am licensed to hunt here, so I am allowed two hanguns (I know, that sounds horrible, doesn't it?). I recently purchased a 619 (so I can purchase one more) and am completely satisfied, but the one S&W that I want that I can't get over here is the new Model 1917. However, I recently came across two original 1917s. One claims to be an original 1920 made 1917 with 85% finish (pictures on the left, 57877) and and a Brazilian contract model (53469), made in 1937 with military finish. The euro to dollar here is horrible and has been for some years and everything is incredibly expensive, so both of these are going for the same amount; $688, which is pretty reasonable even for new guns over here. I can't give much more detail than these pictures, but at first look, what do you experts say? I don't think I could get one any cheaper, in any condition over here. I am thinking that US issue one on the left is probably the one to go for, but don't know enough about what the differences could be to make the price drive selection of the two. It has "US Property" stamped underneath the barrel so I beleive it's issue and not civilian, but I'm guessing those grips are not original? The translation for the site is difficult, I think they state that the grips have "US Property" stamped on them as well, and that the revolver is not "overused". Any ideas?
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M2MikeGolf
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I will add one more bit for the non-Brazilian model. According to the translation it has "no foreign markings" and then "US Army Model 1917 and the serial number on the butt (which makes it issue, I'm guessing after looking at the other posts/pictures). There's got to be a good story on how this and the Brazilian one got here!
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