Let's talk about J-Frame sight visibility:

[shooter686]

I find the sights on the 642 a bit small and difficult to pick up in certain lighting. Anybody have some tricks to increase the visibility? Model paint? Nail polish? Custom sights? What about night sight or night visibility? Anyone make a decent glow in the dark model paint?

Thanks as always for sharing your experiences!

Shoot686

 

[rrobertson]

I believe alot of ppl are going to the Crimson Trace grips for that reason, also bear in mind that it really isnt a competition/"long range" firearm altho there are alot of ppl out there that can use the 642/442 out past 50yds while you most likely will never need it for that. Also if you wanted to change out the front sight you will have to send it to a gunsmith as it is not pinned if I remember correctly. There is a company that Trijicon (majority of night sights) would prefer you send your firearm to to get custom night sights put on. I believe it started as TOOL something im sure someone else will know the company I am talking about.

 

[Iggy]

As mentioned above Crimson Trace grips are a viable sighting aid.

 

[Ed45]

I mentioned this in another post very recently. With these small frame, short barrel guns, its a good idea to practice using the whole gun’s symmetrical outline as the “sight”. Sounds crazy but if you assume a defensive posture and put the outline of the gun on target in such a way that the top of the outline is where you want the round to hit, you will surprise yourself with the "accuracy" you can attain. In the reflexive reaction to a threat, by practicing this, you will be able to hit center mass reliably and without the time delay in trying to acquire a sight picture (you won’t anyway). A BG charging you with a knife won’t allow you time to draw and put your sights on him. Get a silhouette target and give it a try.

 

[-db-]

I believe alot of ppl are going to the Crimson Trace grips for that reason, also bear in mind that it really isnt a competition/"long range" firearm altho there are alot of ppl out there that can use the 642/442 out past 50yds while you most likely will never need it for that. Also if you wanted to change out the front sight you will have to send it to a gunsmith as it is not pinned if I remember correctly. There is a company that Trijicon (majority of night sights) would prefer you send your firearm to to get custom night sights put on. I believe it started as TOOL something im sure someone else will know the company I am talking about.

That's ToolTech in Michigan, but I'm not sure they do J-frame sights.

 

[617X10]

Iggy how old are those CTC grips?

 

[Iggy]

Iggy how old are those CTC grips?

I don't know, I bought them used 10 years ago.

 

[captbahbah]

I sent my 649 (1 7/8" barrel .38spl) to Karl Sokol in VT. He opened up the rear notch and sand blasted the top strap to reduce glare. He also cut the front sight blade to put in a red insert. I had sent my gun to a company that intalls the XS big dot sights a few years back but that didn't work out. They had the gun for a long time and the work never got done. I would have preferred the big dot tritium sights but opening up the rear notch really helps in acquiring the front sight. If you can get XS big dot 24/7's on your gun, do it. If not, you should consider having that rear notch opened up. Hope this helps.

 

[dwever]

In low light my ca. 1980 Model 60's site picture is difficult for me to see now at fifty-one. I'm sending it to S&W for some trigger work soon, I wonder if there's anything they do that would help.

 

[JayBird686]

I put white out on the front sight. Worked wonders.

 

[rrobertson]

That's ToolTech in Michigan, but I'm not sure they do J-frame sights.

Thank you ToolTech theyre website doesnt offer alot of information but I have had some people that I know say that they sent in their 642 or 442 to ToolTech and they removed the front sight and put in something along the lines of the night sight for J frames from XS sights

 

[Bigswampy]

Practice like you'd actually employ it - simulating a rapid emergent threat; you will never use the sights close in. Ed45 has the right idea.

 

[617X10]

I don't know, I bought them used 10 years ago.

I really like the way those look with that 36.

For those looking at getting a CTC grip: If you're only going to shoot .38 Special or .38 +P out of your J-frame, the 105's work alright. If you are shooting .357's, get the 305's or 405's. My 340 has the 105's and it's a mite unruly with the loud stuff.

 

[NE450No2]

I am here to tell you, in the "modern vernacular" Crimson Trace grips are the "BOMB".

They are well worth the money, on any hand gun.

They are Awsome on an AR as well.

 

[wrangler5]

I've painted the front sight of my 442 with the brightest orange nail polish I could find at WalMart. Put directly on the sight it was better than black but not very bright. Removed it with lacquer thinner, then painted the sight with white nail polish, and after that dried put the orange back on top of the white. Much brighter. Liked it so much I did the same to the front sights on my models 10 and 49.

 

[sourdough44]

I agree, the average 'J' frame isn't a 25 yrd target gun. The term 'belly-gun' comes to mind. Also include some practice with the gun just in front of your belly with a bent elbow held against your side.

 

[Broadside]

In low light my ca. 1980 Model 60's site picture is difficult for me to see now at fifty-one. I'm sending it to S&W for some trigger work soon, I wonder if there's anything they do that would help.

Instead of sending your Model 60 back to S&W, you may want to consider purchasing one of the new, no-lock Model 640's, 632's or M&P 340's.

The Model 640 and 632 Pro series have front and rear night sights already installed. The Model M&P 340 has a front night sight installed and a U-shaped rear notch instead of the tradition square notch.

 

[Person]

I went the model paint method on my 642. I put a few coats of white and let them dry completley between coats. Then I put a couple of coats of Flourescent red. Mine came out looking almost exactly like a red insert.

I pocket carry everyday and I have had it on for almost a year and it has not chipped or faded at all.

 

[growr]

A J frame has sights? Who knew about that?

( Just being a smarty pants here) The CT grips are a great solution for many people. Might work for you as well.

Randy

 

[PALADIN85020]

I painted the front sight ramps on both my 642 and 442 with brilliant red nail polish. However, I suspect that since these are belly guns designed for close-up personal protection, it would be "point and shoot" at near-contact distances; precise sight alignment would only take precious time.

John