If by the rarest of chances you have the gun that belongs to these, let me know. They are walnut un-relieved target stocks bearing 160405 on the right panel.
Does this ever work??
Does this ever work??
Looking for N Frame S 160405, I Have Your Target Grips
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I remember at least once that it did on this forum.
OP
There should be some data base out there on the inter-web for such requests!
I guess I am going to have to follow through on my idea for a grip exchange forum or website, I'll bet we could reunite some long lost steel and wood.
Very few target stocks are serial numbered so a website would be of minimal value for them.
Bill
Bill
Interesting that they are numbered. Most sets of targets are not numbered although I do also have an unrelieved N set that are numbered (130285). Rarely are the numbered unrelieved N frame targets found on a gun with the same number. If anyone has a set numbered to their gun please speak up.
Jeff
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OP
Jeff:
Are you thinking the target grips with serial numbers were not put on the respective gun or that the few that are out there simply got separated from the gun? Is it even believed you could get an N frame in the 50's with target grips installed on the gun? would it also come with magna's? So many questions that I have I guess that I don't pretend to know the answer.
938
Are you thinking the target grips with serial numbers were not put on the respective gun or that the few that are out there simply got separated from the gun? Is it even believed you could get an N frame in the 50's with target grips installed on the gun? would it also come with magna's? So many questions that I have I guess that I don't pretend to know the answer.
938
Most sets of target stocks are not numbered. A few stocks made for early 1955 45 Target revolvers and early .357 Combat Magnums were serial numbered, but often used on a revolver with a different serial number because it was determined early that fitting to the grip frame was unnecessary. For example, .357 Combat Magnum, serial number K260005, has original stocks with the serial number 260020 stamped on the right stock panel. Similarly, .357 Combat Magnum, serial number K260190, has stocks with a serial number in the K260300 range stamped on the right stock panel.
N and K-frame revolvers could be ordered with target stocks once they became available. A few of these special order stocks were numbered to the revolver, but most were not. Magna stocks were not sent with revolvers supplied with target stocks unless requested and paid for (I have not seen this on any S&W invoices, post-WW II).
A site to reunite orphan stocks with their original revolver would be most useful for Magna stocks that were all numbered up through the 1970s, but how much activity it would actually get is anyone's guess.
Bill
N and K-frame revolvers could be ordered with target stocks once they became available. A few of these special order stocks were numbered to the revolver, but most were not. Magna stocks were not sent with revolvers supplied with target stocks unless requested and paid for (I have not seen this on any S&W invoices, post-WW II).
A site to reunite orphan stocks with their original revolver would be most useful for Magna stocks that were all numbered up through the 1970s, but how much activity it would actually get is anyone's guess.
Bill
I have S160105, a 1955 45
Is that close enough. Maybe there is a scratch making the second 1 look like a 4.
I got it wearing some kind of thumb rest stocks
Is that close enough. Maybe there is a scratch making the second 1 look like a 4.
I got it wearing some kind of thumb rest stocks
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I recently requested Roy to look up the serial number of a set of unrelieved walnut target grips that I have. The number came back as a pre 29 so you can let your imagination go crazy as to what actually went on at the factory with that pair.
Just wanted to add to the confusion...........
Mike
Just wanted to add to the confusion...........
Mike
I have a Highway Patrolman with matching stamped non-relived target stocks. Posted a few years ago in this thread:
Stocks Numbered to the Gun
Stocks Numbered to the Gun
Mike,
A couple of known scenarios of how these stock serial # anomalies from the 1950s N frames can happen, although not true in every case, here's two examples:
1. Sometimes "re-used" stocks are not re-numbered to match the gun that they're eventually used and shipped on. When an order came thru for a revolver with target grips, a lanyard swivel, certain barrel length, target sights, etc., and there were no assembled revolvers of that configuration as ordered, in inventory: a revolver(s) that matched the order as close as possible was pulled, target grips, drilled for a swivel, barrel length changed, or target sights were added.
2. Another case, on N frame 44 Mags for another reason: some 44 magnums were built on frames already in assembly with target stocks numbered for other Models, i.e., 1955 .45s. But if those guns are converted to 44 Mags because they were selling faster, they needed to have Coke targets, so the standard target stocks were thrown back in the bin to be re-used on later 1950 or 1955 models. This is why we sometimes discover a serial number stamped inside the right grip panel of non-44 Mags walnut target stocks that do not match the serial number of the revolver that wears them. And the converted 44 Mags wearing the serial #s of those stock numbers, have Cokes instead.
In one researched and documented example, a non- 44 Mag #S130833 is wearing stocks stamped #S130741 which, in actuality, became a Feb, 1956 shipped .44 Magnum. The target stocks were removed from that 44 Mag and replaced with cokes at the factory.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...16014-s130741-45-44-magnum.html#post139536804
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Thanks for posting that; had forgotten that earlier discussion. . . . .along with a few other things.
Jeff
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maxfam
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Separated items web site. Guns, Boxes and Grips. Now, how to fund it?
samandglove1
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I have S 160419. Close, but no cigar. It's a pre-25 shipped out near the end of 1955.
Mine is S 160357, a 6 1/2" 44 Magnum shipped in May 1956.
interesting that 3 guns, one 300 off, another 48 off and one just 14 off from that serial number popped up here
CptCurl
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I have S160497, but it's a pre-29 with its original Cokes.
Curly
Curly
and another off by 92
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