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I'm a sports fan, as well as a gun owner. Sometimes I see these interests overlap.
This story broke yesterday, and since one of the people involved is a big name on the local college team, there's considerable debate on the sports forum.
Here's a newspaper link LSU football player shot man who tried to rob him and teammate, police reveal in new info | Crime/Police | theadvocate.com
As often is the case, not a lot is placed in the newspaper; but since some folks follow athletics and recruiting, a pretty good bit of personal info on the players involved is known on the sports forums.
This seems to be the gist of what happened-
Clyde Edwards-Helaire, a running back for LSU, was involved in a Craigslist deal, selling a Playstation 4 to somebody. The other player was a walkon who had gone to the same high school as Helaire, so apparently a trusted friend along for the ride.
From the sports forums, these further bits of info come out- Helaire's father is a cop, Helaire has a concealed carry licence, his mother is a hospital administrator.
LSU is going to a bowl game, the bowls gave out gifts to the players, one of the gifts given is a Playstation 4 which was given to the players earlier this week.
The shooting occurred inside a vehicle, around 12 noon, the "buyer" produced a pistol (later determined to be a bb gun) and was stated to have tried to rob the two players. Official word doesn't state, but it appears pretty commonly accepted on the sports forum that Helaire was the shooter; shot the assailant twice, called 911 and said they needed police and EMS, stayed on the scene waiting for the police and then cooperated.
It's a terrible thing, but I do have to say most comments on the sports board are favorable and supportive for Helaire. For every 1 question about "why does he have a gun", there are 10 rational answers stating "because he has the right to", and also pointing out this exact situation. Afterall, this is why any of us have weapons, to survive something like this.
BTW and not really relevant, some folks mention the "he's selling a PS4 the same week he got one free from the Fiesta Bowl" angle. Let's get that out of the way- bowl gifts are gifts, the players can do what they want with them, it's not illegal (or breaking college rules either). Further, the kid's family is upper-middle class (mom in hospital administration), pretty good chance he already owned a PS4. He could be selling his older one.
Now, the Craiglist transaction itself is just a lesson learned, sadly:
Daytime- check (noon)
Backup- check (his high school buddy and current teammate with him)
Armed in case of nightmare- check obviously
But not meeting in a public area, and letting someone get into the car with you- no-no.
I've done 2 such purchases, a Winchester 94 from a local gun board (bayoushooter, from the classified section), we met at a local walmart parking lot around 5pm. Went great and love the rifle.
Puppy for my mom off Craigslist, bought my mom a Pug to replace her bulldog, a smaller version of the dog since she was getting frail. My brother drove her, they met the family selling, she ended up buying 2. My brother was discreetly safe, and met them publically before driving to meet at the family house for the dogs.
It's just a shame things like this happen, but it sounds like the kids involved were in the right, and did exactly what anyone should do. I hate that because of the one guy's football fame, he's likely to get sued heavily in the hopes of somebody making money off him.
This story broke yesterday, and since one of the people involved is a big name on the local college team, there's considerable debate on the sports forum.
Here's a newspaper link LSU football player shot man who tried to rob him and teammate, police reveal in new info | Crime/Police | theadvocate.com
As often is the case, not a lot is placed in the newspaper; but since some folks follow athletics and recruiting, a pretty good bit of personal info on the players involved is known on the sports forums.
This seems to be the gist of what happened-
Clyde Edwards-Helaire, a running back for LSU, was involved in a Craigslist deal, selling a Playstation 4 to somebody. The other player was a walkon who had gone to the same high school as Helaire, so apparently a trusted friend along for the ride.
From the sports forums, these further bits of info come out- Helaire's father is a cop, Helaire has a concealed carry licence, his mother is a hospital administrator.
LSU is going to a bowl game, the bowls gave out gifts to the players, one of the gifts given is a Playstation 4 which was given to the players earlier this week.
The shooting occurred inside a vehicle, around 12 noon, the "buyer" produced a pistol (later determined to be a bb gun) and was stated to have tried to rob the two players. Official word doesn't state, but it appears pretty commonly accepted on the sports forum that Helaire was the shooter; shot the assailant twice, called 911 and said they needed police and EMS, stayed on the scene waiting for the police and then cooperated.
It's a terrible thing, but I do have to say most comments on the sports board are favorable and supportive for Helaire. For every 1 question about "why does he have a gun", there are 10 rational answers stating "because he has the right to", and also pointing out this exact situation. Afterall, this is why any of us have weapons, to survive something like this.
BTW and not really relevant, some folks mention the "he's selling a PS4 the same week he got one free from the Fiesta Bowl" angle. Let's get that out of the way- bowl gifts are gifts, the players can do what they want with them, it's not illegal (or breaking college rules either). Further, the kid's family is upper-middle class (mom in hospital administration), pretty good chance he already owned a PS4. He could be selling his older one.
Now, the Craiglist transaction itself is just a lesson learned, sadly:
Daytime- check (noon)
Backup- check (his high school buddy and current teammate with him)
Armed in case of nightmare- check obviously
But not meeting in a public area, and letting someone get into the car with you- no-no.
I've done 2 such purchases, a Winchester 94 from a local gun board (bayoushooter, from the classified section), we met at a local walmart parking lot around 5pm. Went great and love the rifle.
Puppy for my mom off Craigslist, bought my mom a Pug to replace her bulldog, a smaller version of the dog since she was getting frail. My brother drove her, they met the family selling, she ended up buying 2. My brother was discreetly safe, and met them publically before driving to meet at the family house for the dogs.
It's just a shame things like this happen, but it sounds like the kids involved were in the right, and did exactly what anyone should do. I hate that because of the one guy's football fame, he's likely to get sued heavily in the hopes of somebody making money off him.
