There are several reports that the killer in NYC yesterday used a M-4 for the killing. It was identified as such by the police Commissioner. Am I mistaken in thinking that is a select-fire rifle that is not available to We The People?
M-4 Rifle in NYC killing.
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I saw a close up photo of it; it is a Palmetto State AR-15 (an M4 clone). I think it was semi-auto only, but you never know these days. It did not appear to have a binary trigger.
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If I was a betting man I would say that was just for the dramatic effect.
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New York City Mayor Eric Adams provided new investigative details regarding the firearms used in the Midtown Manhattan mass shooting.
"We have discovered through our investigation… that the weapon that was used was purchased by an associate of the perpetrator,” Adams said during an interview on Fox News’ “The Story.”
“And he also purchased the firearm that was found in the car, by using a carry permit that he received in Nevada,” Adams continued.
Adams said two teams of detectives are going to Las Vegas to identify and question the associate.
Adams said a search warrant will also be conducted on his home.
New York City Mayor Eric Adams provided new investigative details regarding the firearms used in the Midtown Manhattan mass shooting.
"We have discovered through our investigation… that the weapon that was used was purchased by an associate of the perpetrator,” Adams said during an interview on Fox News’ “The Story.”
“And he also purchased the firearm that was found in the car, by using a carry permit that he received in Nevada,” Adams continued.
Adams said two teams of detectives are going to Las Vegas to identify and question the associate.
Adams said a search warrant will also be conducted on his home.
Most people in the press and many in government agencies do not know the difference between an AR15, an M16, an M4, or an AK47.
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In all fairness, there really isn’t a difference unless one considers the fire-control group. The function is identical, the dimensions and manual of arms and ergonomics are identical…its the same as nit-picking the Beretta 92 vs M9 or M1911 vs Colt Government or M1873 Cold Single-Action Army vs Peacemaker.
I think the gun community makes ourselves look pedantic when we dismiss critiques based on someone’s naming.
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Mayor Adams was a NYPD police officer.
NYPD refused to use AR-15 rifles for years, equipping their Emergency Services Unit and other specialized units with the traditionally stocked Ruger Mini-14 rifles. Supposedly this Mini-14 issuance was due to looking less scary than the AR-15 profile. supposedly.
After 9/11, the NYPD Homeland Security units converted en masse to the Colt M4 rifle or a few related variants. My limited work with ESU or Homeland Security units saw them always called “M4s” as a generic term.
Mayor Adams’s comments were technically incorrect, but consistent with NYPD type vocabulary. As has been noted, it was a bargain basement Palmetto State Arms rifle. All media reports/leaks indicate it was a standard semiautomatic rifle.
In lieu of celebrating the shooter, let’s remember the NYPD officer and security guard who gave their lives.
A native of Bangladesh, Didarul Islam immigrated to the United States before joining the NYPD as an officer 3½ years ago, the department said. Islam was assigned to the 47th Precinct in the Bronx but was moonlighting as uniformed private security at 345 Park Ave. on Monday night. He was married with two young sons, New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch told reporters Monday, adding that Islam’s wife is pregnant with the couple’s third child.
The security guard killed in Monday’s shooting was Aland Etienne. Police said Etienne was shot while behind his security desk after a gunman burst into the lobby of the Midtown building.
NYPD refused to use AR-15 rifles for years, equipping their Emergency Services Unit and other specialized units with the traditionally stocked Ruger Mini-14 rifles. Supposedly this Mini-14 issuance was due to looking less scary than the AR-15 profile. supposedly.
After 9/11, the NYPD Homeland Security units converted en masse to the Colt M4 rifle or a few related variants. My limited work with ESU or Homeland Security units saw them always called “M4s” as a generic term.
Mayor Adams’s comments were technically incorrect, but consistent with NYPD type vocabulary. As has been noted, it was a bargain basement Palmetto State Arms rifle. All media reports/leaks indicate it was a standard semiautomatic rifle.
In lieu of celebrating the shooter, let’s remember the NYPD officer and security guard who gave their lives.
A native of Bangladesh, Didarul Islam immigrated to the United States before joining the NYPD as an officer 3½ years ago, the department said. Islam was assigned to the 47th Precinct in the Bronx but was moonlighting as uniformed private security at 345 Park Ave. on Monday night. He was married with two young sons, New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch told reporters Monday, adding that Islam’s wife is pregnant with the couple’s third child.
The security guard killed in Monday’s shooting was Aland Etienne. Police said Etienne was shot while behind his security desk after a gunman burst into the lobby of the Midtown building.
. . . Or the butt from the muzzle!
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I know I don't. Those are not my firearms of choice. I'm a revolver guy and always will be. The only "military" rifles I know are the M1-Carbine, M-1 Garand and the M14. All the rest hold no interest for me. I'm probably in the minority in that opinion. Don't care. I've nothing against them or their owners, just not my thing.
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It was a AR15 pistol, appears to be a 10.5" barrel and a SB pistol brace.
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