Thanks for the comments guys. I just ordered 2 35 round capacity Plinker Mags from Cabelas. Does anyone know if these are any good? I don't hold out much hope that the S&W 25 rounders are coming anytime soon from Cabellas. My order was pushed back another month into late March.
M&P 15 22-25 round magazine availability
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Majorlk
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Some folks have reported feeding problems and some say they run fine. I have two freebies from PT and both don't work for me.
Pay your money and take your chances.
Col. Plink
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I seem to have an endless supply of odd (and cheap) screwdrivers. I used a small triangular file to file a "V" into one, and it really helped keep it on the pin while striking with a mallet.
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Please tell me more about this. I have an extra 10 rounder I could experiment with!
Please tell me more about this. I have an extra 10 rounder I could experiment with!
You could always convert a 25rd magazine back into a 10rd (or even a 15 rd) magazine using one of these:
Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 10 Round Magazine Restrictor [MR1] - $4.25 : Tacticool22, Tactical .22 Rifle Parts and Accessories
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If you are going to use a restrictor to limit a modified long 10 round magazine to 10 rounds, why even bother modifying the magazine?
Besides, it may not matter whether there is a restrictor installed, the bigger issue might be that the magazine was modified.
Of course, this is only speculation on my part. As previously discussed, perhaps a dated receipt or different stampings on a magazine might be enough to prove when the magazine was purchased. Or.... perhaps not. Just something to think about before making the modification. It's not a toy.
Besides, it may not matter whether there is a restrictor installed, the bigger issue might be that the magazine was modified.
Of course, this is only speculation on my part. As previously discussed, perhaps a dated receipt or different stampings on a magazine might be enough to prove when the magazine was purchased. Or.... perhaps not. Just something to think about before making the modification. It's not a toy.
By the time you go to the frig, open the door, pull open the crisper drawer, grab a cold can, shut the crisper drawer, close the frig door and open that cold can....I'll be standing there with a former 10 rd mag that will now hold more 22's. Those pins had to cost S&W .000000000000000000001 cents apiece.
The point was if you took a 10rd long magazine and knocked restrictor pin out and THEN the law changed restricting mags to 10rds. The pins really can't be re-installed after being knocked out. This restrictor would at least allow the mag to be legal even after knocking the restrictor pin out. Plus you'd have the 10rd stamping on the outside.
The way I removed the pins they can be reinstalled. Instead of the brute force knocking them out, I advocate drilling a very small hole directly over the pin, it falls right out. They can be reinserted if need be and back fill the drilled hole with epoxy.
Youtube has some videos on where to drill. Takes 30 seconds.
You might be right however it will depend how any new magazine limiting federal laws might be written (FWIW I don't think such a law would stand a chance of passage with our current Congress - who knows in the future). The NJ law I live with doesn't make modification illegal, only that they not be "temporary modifications"
This probably means that you'd have to at least epoxy the heel of the magazine that had a restrictor modification from being evaluated as "temporary". Here's the law we live with in NJ.
"Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container, which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. A large capacity ammunition magazine that has been permanently altered so that it is not capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition will cease to be defined as a "large capacity ammunition magazine." An ammunition magazine, which has been temporarily blocked or modified from holding more than 15 rounds, as by a piece of wood or a pin, is still considered to be a "large capacity ammunition magazine."
Its worth noting that all the 25rd/32rd mags that are "pinned" to accept only 10 rds are shipped to NJ by everyone and sold by every gunshop in NJ so therefore I can only assume they are considered permanent modifications.
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I hope you're right and no such law does pass. But, you know stranger things have happened.
That sort of illustrates my concern. Where I live there are no limitations on magazines. I could glue one 25 round magazine to the bottom of another 25 magazine and no one would look twice -- perhaps only to ask were can I buy one of those.
My concern is that each state, for that matter each country, has different laws. Applying a one size fits all, without also including the caveat that this may be illegal where you live or may become illegal in the future, I think is not doing anyone any good. Sometimes what you want and what you can have, are not always on the same page.
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Which raises the question, how many people in NJ who have read threads in this forum about the modification and have perform the modification, even considered that 25 does not equal 15. That is to say, once they removed the pin, did they re-restrict the magazine to 15 rounds and epoxy the floorplate?
Most likely they modified the magazine and never gave it another thought. Either they were unaware of the law or they simply ignored the law, yet they already have an illegal magazine without any future legislation.
Not only permanent, un-modified.
Just get mine M&P today at a LGS in Puerto Rico, no mags available but in transit as per LGS owner... Around $30 each by the way!
Actually anyone in NJ is fully aware that magazines are limited to 15rds. If you have a hunter's license you can't pass the licensing test without knowing and even without a hunter's license you'll have to have a NJFID to purchase a long gun and you'll have to buy from a dealer that does a separate state background check than the federal NIC. That dealer will ensure you can't get a magazine that holds more than 15 rds.
Unfortunately there isn't a single semi-auto rifle that has 15rd magazines (at least that I can found). So the only reason I had interest in the plastic restrictor was to modify a 10rd oem long mag to remove the pin, cut 5 rounds off the plastic restrictor, install it in the 25rd oem magazine, seal the mag door and have a "legal" 15rd magazine.
NJ's too small with too many shooters at the ranges to take a chance on having a magazine with more than 15rds. Almost sure to get you a day in court here in NJ.
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The odds are very good that those aren't in stock, even if it says they are. Botach seems to be using the panic in a shady way.
If they're out of stock, they'll take your credit card, charge it, then sit on it for a while. They print a shipping label internally, but use that to track back orders. Once you figure out what is going on, or they tell you the product is back ordered, then you have to fight with them to get a refund. While you're fighting with them, or they're acknowledging a back order problem, that money is sitting in their accounts.
Weak sause.
15 22 mags
I realize a lot of negative has been said about Promags. I received mine 3 weeks ago after waiting two weeks @ $16.95 each plus shipping ( $10.00) I have run over 2000 rounds and I would prefer the 25 round S&W models but I have to say that they run the ammo fine. My only complaint is my bolt doesn't always lock open on last round fired.
The customer service at Promag isn't the best ...you can tell how overwhelmed they are in their voices and they need to hire more people to answer phones but all in all I would do it again in a heartbeat.
I realize a lot of negative has been said about Promags. I received mine 3 weeks ago after waiting two weeks @ $16.95 each plus shipping ( $10.00) I have run over 2000 rounds and I would prefer the 25 round S&W models but I have to say that they run the ammo fine. My only complaint is my bolt doesn't always lock open on last round fired.
The customer service at Promag isn't the best ...you can tell how overwhelmed they are in their voices and they need to hire more people to answer phones but all in all I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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yup...if i lived in chicago...i'd think like this as well....most of us live in free states
