m&p 15-22 magazine loader

should the first run be white or black

  • white

    Votes: 5 9.4%

  • black

    Votes: 48 90.6%
  • Total voters
    53
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Majorlk said:
In about a dozen loadings I did not notice any lack of staggering, either long or short magazines.
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yea its fairly good at it as it mimics hand loading ,but i get some every now and then ,but hasn't really gave me any stove problems that i can contribute to miss staggered rounds, there more from crappy rounds/dirty chamber, etc\
my last stovepipe was exploded after 3/4 of the way into the chamber and mushroomed right at the primer?
 
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skunkwerkz said:
how dose everyone like it so far?

i would like to see some in action if possible, its kinda like its first steps in the real world!
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http://youtu.be/PEdnjC7vThE
2nd most useless video lol! Go back to page 1 if you don't get the joke. Sorry in advance for the crappy quality this was a test for me to see how to get a video up for others to watch. Stay tuned...
 
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Majorlk said:
In about a dozen loadings I did not notice any lack of staggering, either long or short magazines.
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If I go slow and keep the magazine straight up that's my experience too, but speeding things up a bit or being less careful does cause a few to be incorrectly staggered. I haven't had any feed issues as a result though.

A laser cut brass tube would definately be an improvement as I've had to re-bend the mag cap end several times already and I don't know home much longer it will hold up. This is mainly due to being tossed in my range bag with boxes of ammo etc. I don't usually load at the range but have been doing so just to test it out and show others.

Overall opinion seems to be positive from those that have seen it. Of course everyone has suggestions how to make it better :D
 
Zax said:
This is mainly due to being tossed in my range bag with boxes of ammo etc. I don't usually load at the range but have been doing so just to test it out and show others.
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I think this is going to need to be kept in a container of some sort, rather than just thrown loose in a range bag.
 
Got home from a trip to one of my grandson's graduation and found that a package had arrived. It took me a minute to sort thru the files on the 5-inch floppy disc that is my brain for "SkunkWirkz" but then everything clicked and I was smiling big enough to worry the dogs!
Okay, first impressions using stock S&W magazines:
1. plastic moldings are very good for a limited production item. No flash and edges are crisp and precise. The feed tube seemed a bit fragile being aluminum but nothing some care and attention to storage won't protect. I would imagine that stainless would be used by a big commercial company for this but this is a beta-test of what is really a prototype so the softer metal is perfectly acceptable to me.
2. the alignment block works wonderfully and I may use it to ease loading of the .22 pistol magazines of my grandchildren's guns. But I would suggest thinking of something to aid in keeping the tube in the right spot for the rounds to drop into. There is a little tab on the tube now so I'm assuming you have such a modification in mind already.
3. I had to adjust the alignment of the tube trough and dropping port for my first time using the device. Even then it wouldn't load until I adjusted the depth of the tube in the magazine topper. I scribed a witness mark on the tube at the proper position for future reference and when adjusted it fed cartridges perfectly AS LONG as I didn't try to go too fast. This is not an equipment issue but falls under the heading of "self-training" and is quickly learned (even by an old fart like me!).
In summary - The device works as intended and is indeed much easier than unassisted loading. I was even able to use the Plinker Tactical assist-rod to depress the follower after the first five-rounds or so were loaded. That made the process even smoother for me (your mileage may vary!) on a S&W mag, I haven't yet tried it on a Plinker.

Skunk, my friend; I really think you have created something of real usefulness and value to the M&P 15-22 community. I also think that it may also be modified to fit other platforms (I'm already thinking about trying it on my Henry Golden Boy tube magazine). I'm honored to have been chosen as a tester and have already unloaded and reloaded all five of my S&W magazines several times so I could do a through job.
And also thank you for the shirt; though it's been a few years (decades?) since a "large" fit me, my grandson who also loves to shoot the 15-22 has already laid-claim to it so it will get around!
This is a good product and I congratulate you on living up to the American tradition of finding a need then inventing a solution to that need. I hope you sell a million of 'em!
 
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Hi everyone hope you all are enjoying playing with your new toy!
After reviewing all the posts so far it seems the tube is the major issue, and i agree. being i seem to never stop and actually sleep, i came up with a fairly simple fix and can be incorporated to new units and update your beta units in the field. i think you will all approve after testing the update.
i will post a short video on how to modify your units, as soon as my camera man returns from his mothers house with my camera.
ps need help on how to post pics to thread?:o
 
QuiQNeZZ said:
Maybe mod a toothbrush cover or something similar to cover the end of the tube?
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good thinking,, i've been cruising all my shipping catalogs and online suppliers and found some very inexpensive clear plastic protective shipping tubes that could be used as protective tube cases,but for now I suggest going to your local dollar tree or value home center and find something that comes in a nice container already and buy it for a dollar just for the container!
now thats literally thinking outside the box!(more like thinking about the box)
also a 13" long by 1/2 or 3/4 diam pvc pipe with pvc end caps will work also
 
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Skunk, for pics, create a www.photobucketcom account.on the main screen after you create the account, in about the middle of the page, you will see the word "upload" with a green arrow beside it. click that and follow the instructions to upload one or many pics. after the pics are uploaded to photobucket, click on the pic you want to post. it will show the pic and a box oon the right side of the screen. in that box with a title that says links to share this photo. click on the link on the box next to the word "direct". this will automatically copy the link to your clipboard.

come back to where you want to post the pics(it's best to have photobucket open in another window/tab). just above where you type, you will see a little icon that is a square with a mountain, a yellow background, with what may be a stamp in the upper right corner of the icon. click that and paste the link that was copied from photobucket in that box.

hope this helps.

it looks like i have a 12 hour day coming up again...hoping not as i want to get some pics and video for you tonight...
 
skunkwerkz said:
good thinking,, i've been cruising all my shipping catalogs and online suppliers and found some very inexpensive clear plastic protective shipping tubes that could be used as protective tube cases,but for now I suggest going to your local dollar tree or value home center and find something that comes in a nice container already and buy it for a dollar just for the container!
now thats literally thinking outside the box!(more like thinking about the box)
also a 13" long by 1/2 or 3/4 diam pvc pipe with pvc end caps will work also
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Yeah, I was also thinking about that too. Some plastic tube with a cap to protect the tube.

Another question, why can't the feeder "lip" if you will, at the end of the tube that goes into the magazine cap be molded into the magazine cap so as to avoid the need to constantly adjust the metal? Assuming that all the magazine feeder lips are the same for each brand of magazine, which I believe they are. I think making it a permanent part of the mag clip piece would work out better right? Then have the end of the metal tube just cut straight and have it sit and align inside the mag clip with the feeder lip. Know what I mean?

The mold I guess would have to be slightly modified but should be an easy job for someone with some CAD skills.

I'm also thinking a small hard plastic cap for the upper part of the tube molded in the shape of that slant at the top which can be clipped or threaded on and removed from the tube would also help with the constant bending of the metal which it seems will at some point give way and break off.

Just some thoughts. =)
 
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Majorlk said:
In about a dozen loadings I did not notice any lack of staggering, either long or short magazines.
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Same here. Staggering rounds hasn't been an issue. I did have to "tweak" the drop end to match the mags feed lips a little better but it is working fine. NOT a speed machine but does work very well.

I'm going to the hobby store to see if I can find some brass tubing and replace the original piece with something a bit stiffer.

Otherwise it works great.
 
I havent read all the pages but I assume the block will hold enough for the 35 round magazines? Is there markings on the main block that show how many bullets are currently placed in it so you don't have to worry about counting? Maybe none of this matters. Can't wait for a final product so I can pick one up.
 
TacticalTwentyTwo said:
I havent read all the pages but I assume the block will hold enough for the 35 round magazines? Is there markings on the main block that show how many bullets are currently placed in it so you don't have to worry about counting? Maybe none of this matters. Can't wait for a final product so I can pick one up.
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No, the tray holds 27 rounds. The tube isn't long enough to hold more than 13. To hold a magazine full would make the drop tube over two feet long and that would be unwieldy.

Reading the whole thread and watching the initial video will answer any questions you have.
 
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Thank you Skunk! I just got my Beta Tester today, along with the cool looking shirt! Very nice!

First thing out of the package was a very bowed, and crushed down at both ends, aluminum tube. I think my UPS guy was angry or something! Anyway, with some gentle bending and re-shaping, i got the bullets to drop from the box, and in and down completely through the tube. From there, I put the tube back in the magazine loader and got things aligned and loaded a 10 and 25-round S&W mag with very little problems. I was using some pretty waxy Winchester HP's. Occassionally I'd have to stop and tap the bottom of the mag to get the bullets to continue feeding down the tube, but a very smooth operation. I think after I got the tube bent correctly, the problem went away. I did them a few times then looked around...
Next up was my Black Dog 50-rounder. I think it worked every bit as well for the drum, as it does for the S&W's!!! You do have to keep loading more shells in the tube to keep the operation going, but this is SO much faster for a 50-rounder, that it's rediculous! This could really have the old ammo bill through the roof, if you're not careful
I'm truly impressed with this new toy I've received, and with a few minor tweaks in packaging and/or tube material, like the other testers have already mentioned, I think this is a winner all the way!
Congratulations to you sir, for a great product! I hope you become wealthy beyond your dreams, and have great happiness in your life. j
 
well looks like good reviews so far.
thats very relieving!
i will try to post the pics and small vid of the tube and box mods tonight sometime,

ps i warned everyone about the ammo bill in the past post!
:D
 
box and tube mod video link

ok here is the modification video link for the tube and box,
give it a try if your a handy type of guy which i think most of you are, if you mod your unit please post your success and comment on the new design idea.

loader mod video - YouTube


still trying to get pictures uploaded, seems to be more difficult than i figured?
 
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