M&P 2.0 Compact Announcement

I like it. I have never warmed up to the stubby grip compacts. Always thought the Glock 19/23 was about the perfect size. I was about to get a new one in Generation 5 but now I think I'll hold off to check out the new M&P.
 
Fits this IDPA Division:

8.2.4 Compact Carry Pistol Division (CCP)

[FONT=:Calibri:][FONT=:Calibri:]Handguns permitted for use in CCP must:
A. Be semi-automatic.
B. Use 9 mm (9x19) or larger cartridges.
C. Barrel length 4 3/8" or less.


D. The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. or less.
E. The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ¾" x 5 3/8" x 1
3/8".


8.2.4.1 Start Condition
A. Single action only firearms will start cocked and locked. (hammer cocked, safety engaged).
B. Selective DA/SA firearms may start cocked and locked or de-cocked, at the shooter's discretion.
C. DA, DAO, or striker fired firearms with a de-cocking lever or button will be de-cocked using the lever or button.
D. DA, DAO, or striker-fired firearms may have a manual safety engaged at the shooter's discretion.


8.2.4.2 CCP Permitted Features and Modifications (Inclusive list):
CCP firearms must comply with all Enhanced Service Pistol (ESP) features and modifications, and equipment restrictions.
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Not sure if that was in answer to my question above, but if so, doesn't the full size 2.0 also fit that division?
 
jejb said:
Curious why you would pick this one over the full size 2.0? They seem to be almost identical, from the specs we've seen so far.
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Because it feels much better in my hand, with 99% of the performance and excellent capacity.
 
jejb said:
Not sure if that was in answer to my question above, but if so, doesn't the full size 2.0 also fit that division?
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No. The 4.5" barrel excludes it from the CCP division. Possibly some of the other overall dimensions as well. As silly as it sounds, the CCP class was pretty much set up for the Glock 19. The 19 is pretty much the largest handgun that would qualify for that division.
 
Ray1970 said:
No. The 4.5" barrel excludes it from the CCP division. Possibly some of the other overall dimensions as well. As silly as it sounds, the CCP class was pretty much set up for the Glock 19. The 19 is pretty much the largest handgun that would qualify for that division.
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Barrel length is 4.25" on the FS 2.0.

M&P(R)9 M2.0™ | Smith & Wesson
 
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jejb said:
Not sure if that was in answer to my question above, but if so, doesn't the full size 2.0 also fit that division?
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I wish. Gun with magazine must fit in "box" specified. The full size M&P will not go in with magazine inserted.
The 15 rounder in the compact M&P does fit the box.

When CCP Division first came out, many of us thought they just measured a G19 for the box.
 
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OKFC05 said:
I wish. Gun with magazine must fit in "box" specified. The full size M&P will not go in with magazine inserted.
The 15 rounder in the compact M&P does fit the box.

When CCP Division first came out, many of us thought they just measured a G19 for the box.
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Okay, thanks, so maybe that is the reason for its growth. But it sure is disappointing to me, and I'd imagine others. I was looking forward to getting a 2.0 M&P Compact that was as compact as the 1.0. This 4" barrel gun will not work for me. And even if it did, since I don't shoot IDPA, I'd just get the full size 2.0 since they're so close in specs anyway. Hopefully, they'll come out with a true compact 2.0 model down the road, instead of just a G19 imitator.
 
I'm disappointed too, was hoping for an upgrade to the original compact line, as I like the size, ergos of the 9C very much.
 
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jejb said:
Okay, thanks, so maybe that is the reason for its growth. But it sure is disappointing to me, and I'd imagine others. I was looking forward to getting a 2.0 M&P Compact that was as compact as the 1.0. This 4" barrel gun will not work for me. And even if it did, since I don't shoot IDPA, I'd just get the full size 2.0 since they're so close in specs anyway. Hopefully, they'll come out with a true compact 2.0 model down the road, instead of just a G19 imitator.
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When they first came out people cried it was too small and should have been G19 size. I don't shoot IDPA either but the original was too small. Grip was too short and adding the pinky extension made it the same length as my G19 which then made no sense to buy. I certainly wasn't disappointed it was just not for me.

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This size gun is a huge seller for Glock, Sig, CZ, etc. so it is no surprise S&W is going to make one. Like all other gun manufacturers S&W wants police contracts and this size gun helps them compete in that market. Some police departments issue this size gun but not anything as small as the current 12 round compact.

I would bet this is going to be an additional size option, not a replacement for the current 12 round compact which everyone else would call a subcompact. Those wanting a smaller 2.0 that size probably just need to wait.

I have a Gen4 Glock 19 I do not shoot particularly well. The blocky grip does not fit my hand well among other things. I am looking at other pistols that size and this gun is now on my short list.

I like having the option of carrying a gun this size even though I almost always end up carrying a single stack 9 instead. It is not a big difference but .5 inch shorter grip does help. As long as the grip is big enough for all my fingers anything larger is a waste IMO. If I want more capacity I can always use the 17 round magazines, S&W even includes a couple of adapters for a smooth grip.
 
Do any of you know if the rebate will cover the 2.0 compact? Time is running out.
 
Dave Lively said:
I would bet this is going to be an additional size option, not a replacement for the current 12 round compact which everyone else would call a subcompact. Those wanting a smaller 2.0 that size probably just need to wait.
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I hope you're right. I really like my 1.0 40C, so it certainly is not any kind of punishment to keep carrying and shooting it. Super accurate and dependable.
 
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