OldeTSgt
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Hey have M&P45 shooting right - and I am wanting to bring point of impact to the left - should I just drift the rear sight.
M&P 45 shooting right
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Olde, I would be very certain it is the weapon and not the end item user. 
Ensure the sights are both centered and secure then have a few other folks shoot and ensure the results are the same. If you still have a POI that is right of your POA, apply the aid FORS. Front sights are very snug drifts and though the rear is as well it should be an easier adjustment once the lock screw is loosened. A good deal information on here as to how folks accomplish all this. Good luck.
Ensure the sights are both centered and secure then have a few other folks shoot and ensure the results are the same. If you still have a POI that is right of your POA, apply the aid FORS. Front sights are very snug drifts and though the rear is as well it should be an easier adjustment once the lock screw is loosened. A good deal information on here as to how folks accomplish all this. Good luck.
Lee in Quartzsite
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Why not have someone else shoot the gun and confirm it is the sights before you try to move them? It's also not uncommon for the front sight to be a bit off-center from the factory, so verify that the sights are indeed centered. The M&P sights can be VERY difficult to move and should be moved using a sight pusher to insure you don't damage the gun. Just my $0.02.....
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....Question: why is there a hyper-link on the word sight and sights??? Links to E-bay!
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B0308
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OldTSgt,
CarrieC called it right. The .45 M&P sights can be a bit "snug." A sight pusher makes it easier, a brass punch and light hammer will work. It might need a couple of adjustments before you get it where you want.
Once set, don't forget to de-grease the set screw and loc-tite it in place.
Good luck
CarrieC called it right. The .45 M&P sights can be a bit "snug." A sight pusher makes it easier, a brass punch and light hammer will work. It might need a couple of adjustments before you get it where you want.
Once set, don't forget to de-grease the set screw and loc-tite it in place.
Good luck
Rastoff
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There is only one correct response to questions like this...have you shot it from a rest or just off hand?
Yes, I shoot left handed - yes both off hand and rested
Not trying to start a fight - if I am consistently blowing a big hole in my target in the center but right (all the bullets are hitting roughly same POI) why would it matter if my gun shoots different for other people - those other people are not gonna be shooting my gun in defense of life or property - I am - shouldn't I be more concerned on how to get it to shoot where I am looking?
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Unless one of the sights is actually off center, lots of folks find that their new to them pistol gets more accurate after a few hundred rounds or so. If you move the sights early on, you will probably have to move them back when it gets more accurate.
MyDads38
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Don't know how long you've had the 45, or how many rounds you've fired down range. If the M&P is a new platform for you (striker fired pistol), it may take a little while to get used/accustomed to it.
I thought the sights on my new Ruger SR1911 needed adjusted to the right (right handed shooter), and even borrowed a brass punch to do the job. I decided to shoot it a little more and found out it wasn't the sight-it was me. I had been away from shooting for several years and needed to work on my marksmanship basics, especially not jerking the trigger, not anticipating recoil (flinching), trigger squeeze, etc. Once I did that, my groups became centered-with no adjustments to the sights needed.
So, before you make any adjustments, send a few more rounds down range. Check yourself and maybe even have a friend/shooting buddy go with you just to observe. The adjustments might be easier to make than you think-without any tools!
Enjoy your new 45!
I thought the sights on my new Ruger SR1911 needed adjusted to the right (right handed shooter), and even borrowed a brass punch to do the job. I decided to shoot it a little more and found out it wasn't the sight-it was me. I had been away from shooting for several years and needed to work on my marksmanship basics, especially not jerking the trigger, not anticipating recoil (flinching), trigger squeeze, etc. Once I did that, my groups became centered-with no adjustments to the sights needed.
So, before you make any adjustments, send a few more rounds down range. Check yourself and maybe even have a friend/shooting buddy go with you just to observe. The adjustments might be easier to make than you think-without any tools!
Enjoy your new 45!
Rastoff
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Thanks for that info. I'm not surprised that you're left handed.
This is an excellent question and I think I have the answer.
The reason has to do with consistency. We can be very consistent, even when we're doing something wrong. The fact that you're shooting to the right of the target could be due to a slight pushing of the gun as you fire or the sights could be off. If it's due to a flinch or pushing of the gun when firing, then it's the shooter that needs correction not the gun. The question is, "Why not just adjust the sights for where I'm shooting?" Here's why...
It's like a golfer with a slice (golf ball curving to the left for a lefty). He could "play the slice" and aim off to the right, but every now and then he'll hit the ball square and it will not go where intended. The same is true for a gun. Try to adjust the sights to compensate for a flinch and when the shot really counts, you'll either flinch more or not flinch and the shot won't go where intended.
However, it really doesn't matter. If the cause of your inaccuracies is really shooter driven, adjusting the sights won't change it. You'll still flinch and still be off center. So, adjust the sights. If it fixes it, great. If it doesn't, come back and we'll help you fix the grip, trigger press or whatever other issue you're having.
Rastoff
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OldeTSgt,
This is not a new complaint. Neither are you the first to have this problem with the M&P even though you have no trouble with other pistols. I believe, but haven't proven, that it is mostly due to the trigger.
Because the M&P has a stiff trigger with lots of over travel, people tend to push their shots. I had a similar issue until I upgraded the trigger.
Neither does this mean your sights are not off. That is certainly a possibility. So, by all means move the sight. What's the worst that could happen? If it doesn't work, just move them back.
Whatever you decide to do, realize that no one here is questioning your shooting ability. We are simply relaying our experiences.
This is not a new complaint. Neither are you the first to have this problem with the M&P even though you have no trouble with other pistols. I believe, but haven't proven, that it is mostly due to the trigger.
Because the M&P has a stiff trigger with lots of over travel, people tend to push their shots. I had a similar issue until I upgraded the trigger.
Neither does this mean your sights are not off. That is certainly a possibility. So, by all means move the sight. What's the worst that could happen? If it doesn't work, just move them back.
Whatever you decide to do, realize that no one here is questioning your shooting ability. We are simply relaying our experiences.
If you can shoot a flinchlock pistol without pulling the shot, you're a better man than most of us.
Love black powder
Love shooting my flintlocks - all my pistols are smoothbores and are very effective critter guns - carry a pair of them in pommel holsters one loaded with shot for snakes and other vermin - one loaded with ball for men and other nasty creatures - one has sights the other doesn't - 2 yrs ago I killed a nice doe with my 62 Ketland at about 15 yds - went about 40 yds and expired - ball took both lungs - clipped the heart - this was my steel barreled one shooting 50 grs of FFFg with a patched .600 round ball.
My bronze barreled one I only shoot about 35 grs in - but I once shot ballistic gel with a patched ball - penetrated 8 inches
Love shooting my flintlocks - all my pistols are smoothbores and are very effective critter guns - carry a pair of them in pommel holsters one loaded with shot for snakes and other vermin - one loaded with ball for men and other nasty creatures - one has sights the other doesn't - 2 yrs ago I killed a nice doe with my 62 Ketland at about 15 yds - went about 40 yds and expired - ball took both lungs - clipped the heart - this was my steel barreled one shooting 50 grs of FFFg with a patched .600 round ball.
My bronze barreled one I only shoot about 35 grs in - but I once shot ballistic gel with a patched ball - penetrated 8 inches
MyDads38
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Some days, it's not the gun, it's not the ammo; some days are just "better" at the range than others. I go to the range weekly and usually take 2-3 handguns when I go. Yesterday was no exception-SD9VE, M&P 9 & M&P 45.
Yesterday was just a so-so day for me. I could tell my concentration was off, maybe because the indoor range was so busy and so many people at the shooting lanes. There were 2 couples at the 2 shooting lanes to my right, must have been group fun day, and that's okay-they were enjoying their time at the range. I didn't shoot horrible, just not as good as I can.
I still shoot my SD9VE better than either of the M&P's. The M&P's have a lighter trigger pull, but my SD9VE has a smoother trigger pull all the way through. So I think it's more of a transition between the two, more than one is better than the other. I guess my point to all this rambling is, just because you don't shoot the M&P as well as some other guns, don't give up, just shoot it more to get accustomed to it.
I'm no expert shooter, I go to the range to stay proficient with my handguns and to enjoy myself. I do beat myself up a bit when I have a bad day at the range, but the good days really make me smile
Warm welcome from Tampa.
I can't add much to the above comments, but wanted to say, as a lefty new shooter last year, my shots also were consistently right and low.
After a lot of help here, and practice on the range with random snap caps, and a bunch of dry firing, I've managed to end up more or less on target center these days.
Good luck with the 45.
PS the flintlocks sound pretty cool.
MyDads38
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Hey OldeTSgt,
Been about a month since anyone posted to your thread. Was wondering how you were doing with the 45? Any adjustments?
Been about a month since anyone posted to your thread. Was wondering how you were doing with the 45? Any adjustments?
Still waiting on mags here olde and everything is still running like clockwork. If anything at all is in the air it will be sights for all the low light indoor shooting we do at our club. Anything exciting your way?
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